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The child with diabetes is still without a sanitary protocol two months after the course

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Sarita83
11/19/2014 3:53 p.m.

Pabloj2000 said:
Sarita83, your point of view is very respectable, you have also exposed it very correctly.However, and you should know, diabetes is not a world, it is another galaxy, and each one suffers from yours.For my part, I do not share your latest phrases, diabetes, for me, it is a serious illness that implies a disability, it is a chronic and severe disease, which also passes late or later, physically and psychologically (this last, all, all thedays).But what each person is a world.I do not consider myself a healthy or far person (it was, and much, before being diabetic), that it does not imply that you can have fun, throw your laughs or ... but of healthy, nothing.Is my opinion, huh?

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A disability?What prevents you from doing the diabetes you could do not have it?I do not see that I have prevented me from life, I have no physical or much less psychological damage.I have traveled where I have wanted, like everything (the sweets do not attract my attention), I dedicate myself to what I like and psychologically I feel phenomenal.
It may be that from a very young age I assumed diabetes and educated me with the aim that diabetes never prevented me from doing anything or getting my goals, for my family and for me it is a routine, without dramas.If you have to live with something do it with a smile and think positively, this will make things easier for you.Rejoice when you are well, do what you like, travel without fear, enjoy and especially take care of yourself and love you a lot.That is the trick, you should not miss being happy just for this, seriously, well -maintained diabetes becomes a routine that you end up automating.I encourage you to try and offer you my help.
I see a very pessimistic feeling in this forum and that must be changed, let's start with a motto: "You have to live with diabetes, not for diabetes"

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tica
11/19/2014 4:22 p.m.

It is a movie theme because you are talking about the most dear, children.But really, giving them independence is necessary to have a normal life.As parents it is much easier to control and make oneself the decisions of our children, but they will never use themselves.And that independence begins the day we are born.Each person is an individual, and do not forget.What do you think, I will do my diabetes until I am 18 years old and then make their decisions ... Well, there are several options and all have seen the forum ... Q in adolescence sends everything to shit, let the moment arriveWhat is time to release the chick and the parents continue on or do well ... Last complicated I see it ... you have to fall to know how to lift.Even if a small child is unconscious for hiccups, it would not be the end of the world.In my 22 -month -old baby's class, a girl triggered her shoulder, because nothing bandaged and pray that she rests.A matronation boy broke his legs for a year and a half ... What do we do?Do we close the nurseries?

I don't know ... I have made a totally normal life and I find it hard to see such a fat problem as to school a child ... that on the other I do not see home education at home ... I have done many moreThings that most of my friends, I have traveled from a young age without parents, I have done a lot of sport ... I always say that where diabetes has weighed me it has been in pregnancy.In my case they are going to be 16 months fucked by diabetes ....

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Sarita83
11/19/2014 5:24 p.m.

In pregnancy?And so?It is an issue that I do not know and have many doubts

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Enma
11/20/2014 7:31 a.m.

Hello everyone !!What reason is you ethical !!!When Iago debuted and left the hospital, we felt as if we had a baby with which we have to learn from everything (he was 10 years old recently).Over time it is giving us lessons of autonomy and self -sufficiency.This does not mean that he does not support his parents but if he is only he knows how to self -manage, that it is very important.It gives me incredible security, we even think this summer to send it out, precisely because of how well it does and how it takes care of it.What is a child, and a teenager yes!But he is also responsible for his illness.Now he has a freestyle and still feels safer.I think it's a matter of letting "the rope" releasing as in everything, not losing control, but giving him responsibility.I can also tell you that it is super clueless, and that in other things it is a crazy head but in regards to its diabetes, no.
All the best

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beti
11/20/2014 10:11 a.m.

My motto for me and my daughter is living with diabetes and not for her. My life has many plots, one of them is diabetes, but I have many others that I love and I feel done personally and professionally. I am glad thatAll your experiences regarding diabetes have been positive, it is not the case of many others.I do not live my diabetes with the same pain and concern as that of my daughter. It is different. The children "hurt."And in his debut or changed her school (and has no nurse) because then the disease was going to change his life, his friends ... as you say they must be independent. She has achieved in a very short time to be my"Little endocrine." I don't tell you the obstacles we found because I could get bored ... that's why feel fortunate not having them.Children with serious diseases (as diabetes are typified) must have a health support in school, help and supervision if they are very small, not do everything for them, much less.Not all families have the same cultural and economic level, the same resources ... I understand and respect the fear of parents because I have it many times ...

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pabloj2000
11/21/2014 8:09 a.m.

Sarita83 said:

A disability?What prevents you from doing the diabetes that you could do not have it?

Well look, they just given me the news 3 minutes ago (I just answered in another post, of the Galician child), what prevents me from doing?Well, they just told me that I can't get the Piloting Certificate RPAS, which is for drone pilotI saw how a professional alternative (which have cut me with rennet)

They do not recognize a disability, but I try to do this (which by the way, I will do at my own risk, since it is a hobby, which I could apply professionally, but seen what is seen, it can no longer be, since it would not be safe, etc....) and in all teeth.Let's see, if I can't, I have a disability, right?Well look, they just remember that I have it.
Of course ... I can always ride a bike ...

And like this many things, if I remember correctly, you can not do underwater for example, at least a couple of years ago (also exclusive) although each one who does what he wants, without insurance, etc ...

And many more things that you cannot do, or that you have to do caused by a disease and serious, as it is said that it is ... diabetes is there, and that each one carries it as best can, it is a very serious venture, and that limits greatly.Regardless of the fact that, in the end, you can do almost everything (almost), which as I said, without legs can be run perfectly, and you can go to wheelchair space.What are much more serious enfeMmeriness?Of course, but misfortune of many, it is a comfort of fools ...

Anyway ... Chinado I am.

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Sarita83
11/21/2014 11 a.m.

Pabloj2000 wrote:


A disability?What prevents you from doing the diabetes that you could do not have it?

Well look, they just given me the news 3 minutes ago (I just answered in another post, of the Galician child), what prevents me from doing?Well, they just told me that I can't get the Piloting Certificate RPAS, which is for drone pilotI saw how a professional alternative (which have cut me with rennet)

They do not recognize a disability, but I try to do this (which by the way, I will do at my own risk, since it is a hobby, which I could apply professionally, but seen what is seen, it can no longer be, since it would not be safe, etc....) and in all teeth.Let's see, if I can't, I have a disability, right?Well look, they just remember that I have it.
Of course ... I can always ride a bike ...

And like this many things, if I remember correctly, you can not do underwater for example, at least a couple of years ago (also exclusive) although each one who does what he wants, without insurance, etc ...

And many more things that you cannot do, or that you have to do caused by a disease and serious, as it is said that it is ... diabetes is there, and that each one carries it as best can, it is a very serious venture, and that limits greatly.Regardless of the fact that, in the end, you can do almost everything (almost), which as I said, without legs can be run perfectly, and you can go to wheelchair space.What are much more serious enfeMmeriness?Of course, but misfortune of many, it is a comfort of fools ...

Anyway ... Chinado I am.

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Good, I just read Annex IV of the regulations to issue the medical certificate and I have seen that if you have a corrected view with some type of lens you can not be drone pilot ... myopians from the world id to request the certificate ofdisabled!!Maybe they let me park in the squares those big and blue for wearing glasses, heh.

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Sarita83
11/21/2014 11:15 a.m.

Pabloj2000 wrote:


A disability?What prevents you from doing the diabetes that you could do not have it?

Well look, they just given me the news 3 minutes ago (I just answered in another post, of the Galician child), what prevents me from doing?Well, they just told me that I can't get the Piloting Certificate RPAS, which is for drone pilotI saw how a professional alternative (which have cut me with rennet)

They do not recognize a disability, but I try to do this (which by the way, I will do at my own risk, since it is a hobby, which I could apply professionally, but seen what is seen, it can no longer be, since it would not be safe, etc....) and in all teeth.Let's see, if I can't, I have a disability, right?Well look, they just remember that I have it.
Of course ... I can always ride a bike ...

And like this many things, if I remember correctly, you can not do underwater for example, at least a couple of years ago (also exclusive) although each one who does what he wants, without insurance, etc ...

And many more things that you cannot do, or that you have to do caused by a disease and serious, as it is said that it is ... diabetes is there, and that each one carries it as best can, it is a very serious venture, and that limits greatly.Regardless of the fact that, in the end, you can do almost everything (almost), which as I said, without legs can be run perfectly, and you can go to wheelchair space.What are much more serious enfeMmeriness?Of course, but misfortune of many, it is a comfort of fools ...

Anyway ... Chinado I am.

Greetings
Good, I just read Annex IV of the regulations to issue the medical certificate and I have seen that if you have a corrected view with some type of lens you can not be drone pilot ... myopians from the world id to request the certificate ofdisabled!!Maybe they let me park in the squares those big and blue for wearing glasses, heh, he is not moving.

Anyway, the army is very exclusive, you think that people affected by Achús syndrome cannot be pilots.This syndrome, which we have 50% of the population, is that when the sun gives you in the face sneezes.It does not imply any disability but excludes you for some things.So courage, that you sure find a professional future that you like and do not exclude you, think you have gone to look in a complicated place.I cannot enter the army myself by measuring less than 1.65 and being short does not make me disable.

I see that you like drones, why not devote yourself to their development?It would be very interesting.

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pabloj2000
11/21/2014 11:21 a.m.

Juas ... Let's see, you ask me that I can't do ... and I told you clearly.Again, misfortune of many, comfort of fools ... I am prevented from accessing that for my diabetes, and the required medical certificate if it allows you to use lenses or slow lenses, so that it is for my diabetes, so I can't get that certificate (and I don't care that I can't be an astronaut, or whatever they ask for, I talk about what touches me)

It seems to me that you take it very lightly and to the mess, and I assure you that it has not made me funny that they tell me that I cannot opt ​​for that certificate for my diabetes.

And on the long term, honestly, that does not concern you ... It was part of a possible plan (and you forgive me, that the use of drones is not to upload it and lower it and give a pirouette, it has many applications), and part of myHobby (by the way, drones delivering Amazon's packages, the media, is just that, so that many "flipen", that will arrive, if it arrives, in the long, very long term).On the short and long term, everything depends, because in the short term it was also the cure of diabetes 20 years ago ... and here we are, also with the short -term cure (which will be long).

That said, I'm glad that having this serious disease limits you anything ... It is clear that diabetes that I suffer has nothing but absolutely nothing to do with yours.

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Sarita83
11/21/2014 11:21 a.m.

My mobile is silly, he sent the same a thousand times, Sorry

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pabloj2000
11/21/2014 11:40 a.m.

Hello, I have seen that you have modified the original message ...

I think you are confused, this has nothing to do with the army (maybe I have seen in the movies), it is something very "affordable", for example, the multicopters, and utilities, many and civilians, from fotrography, videos, videos,Electrical line inspections, facilities reviews from height ... and many more.Here there is no artificial intelligence that is worth (you maybe you talk about drones that are going to kill the evils to Asian countries and things like that).It has a "powerful" future.But it turns out that the medical certificate excludes you for being diabetic (and this is like flying a radio -controlles helicopter, which did it ... in fact it is much easier, infintously easier).

It hurt that something that I usually do or is a hobby, I cannot get benefit with it (and work on your hobby is pleasant), when you can get it, or give it utility.

The disability of the diabetics is there.I have it, I do not reach 33% (unfortunately for me), but I have a degree of disability (I consider that I have much more), a co -worker, diabetic like me, but of those "good" diabetes (well controlled)It turns out that it has 33%.Now we can discuss whether the degree of disability is a lot or little ... but when health gives you a disability (that these to give, do not give anything), is that you have a disability (much or little, but you have it).And the issue is that now, it is always little (crisis).I am glad that if you go to a medical court they tell you that you have no disability, 0%, that envies.But if they tell me in a medical court - which consists of several professionals - that I have 25 or 30%, it may be that it has it (and it seems clear to me)

greetings

PS: Well look, diabetes something good if you have for me, and that is why I did not do the mili, the only thing in my whole life thanks to diabetes.For the rest, an important, constant and crushing load, which I try to take my best, but it is there, and weighs a lot.

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beti
11/21/2014 1:28 p.m.

What I am clear is that if there is a natural catastrophe or I get buried three days by accident, without insulin and without eating, I die ... and a healthy person no. I do not know if that is called disability or "I am likeeveryone".And it is not pessimism, it is informative.
As I understand if you have had income from decompensation, and /or organic affectation type retinopathy, renal failure ... the court grants greater degree of disability. Another thing that reaches the minimum to obtain some economic or social benefit, ... theCourt study each specific case. And they always throw down because now there is no money ...
On the other hand a few years ago the case of a man with type 1 diabetes who denounced Metro came out in the press because after having approved the oppositions it was not suitable for working by issuing tickets because, they claimed, as he was only at the box office if he gave him aInadvertent descent then notice that brown for the company.If that is not discrimination, and I don't want to imagine to be the driver !!

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alex
11/21/2014 5:47 p.m.

Hello everyone, I have read all the comments and surely some will serve me in the future.7 years of your health problems we will also do it with everything else.I think that diabetes is not something that has to be taken lightly, I have a medical report where it says what are the consequences of a bad performance on the disease my 5 -year -old child is and the truth is not to take it tolaugh. Man I am not going to cry all day but ... and less give responsibility for the child of his diabetes that each one does at home what corresponds or that the circumstances leave him. But still all these all theseComments are right to me the same disease does not affect everyone.To all. Feliz day and better night.

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nina45
12/17/2014 8:53 a.m.

I can agree with the optimistic vision of Sarita83 ... and tells you who saw his very young mother die for multiple complications of diabetes.Of that 25 years ago ... today you are practically as any other person ... there are advanced techniques (bombs, control devices) ... in short ... disabilities?I would not call it so much at least in my case ... (except for severe specific cases such as Alex's -the Galician child -) ... but I would not refuse who if he needed it ...
I of course take it positive ... I saw it quite badly to go to my parents and I will not let this or anything (my own because the disease in my family hurts more evidently) life.What do I have to live less for it?And what am I going to do? ... I could have given me a heart attack at 30 ... the only thing that I can do and do is to fully enjoy life (that is the greatest lesson - lifetime - that I take out ofmy mother's death).
The obstacles in permissions and such are just that bureaucratic obstacles that demonstrate the enormous ignorance that society still has on this issue ... Ainssss how much it remains to move forward ...
Sweet kisses to all!

Diabetica tipo II desde Diciembre de 2012 pero descendiente de diabéticos desde nacimiento
Medicacion: metformina de 850 gr mañana, mediodia y noche.
Ultima glicosila 6
Lema: "If you want a positive life, spent time with positive people!"

  
nina45
12/17/2014 9:12 a.m.

Obviously Alex is right.It does not affect us the same ... and I know in their own flesh because my mother Murio and her sister has been diabetic and the sea of ​​good and without complications ... Nor does cancer, leukemia, Alzheimerr, either affect... some survive and others not ... or the deterioration is worse ...
So is life loved ... bittersweet ... sometimes gratifying and sometimes hard and cruel ...

Diabetica tipo II desde Diciembre de 2012 pero descendiente de diabéticos desde nacimiento
Medicacion: metformina de 850 gr mañana, mediodia y noche.
Ultima glicosila 6
Lema: "If you want a positive life, spent time with positive people!"

  
beti
12/18/2014 midnight

Nor is a type 2 diabetes the same that is handled with oral diet and antidiabetics that, as in case of metformin they are not hypoglycemic (sulfonylureas are) but they are antihyperglycemicism (that is, it will never give you aHypoglycemia that can be very serious, and if we do not ask parents with children with diabetes the concern we have at night) that an insulinding type 1 diabetes from the moment of diagnosis, much less in a child you have to prick fivetimes a day insulin plus hair controls about six-seven a day (which I doubt that in a type 2 diabetes without insulin, so many are made because they are not necessary ..) They cannot forget that they have diabetes because each nothing is being punctured.And it is not the same to have diabetes from the age of five than from 35 ..... not even the diabetic to be your child (in my case the two type 1); there are so many factors that affect the experienceof diabetes that are all valid.You cannot compare even diabetes, or people.

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nina45
12/18/2014 1:43 a.m.

Dear Beti ... I of Diabetes understand (unfortunately) since in my family there are type I and type II (and type I since children).But as the type I said above that they are part of my family nucleus, they have shown me almost more than the type II that are self -sufficient and positive in life despite their illness and their difficulties (which I do not deny that there are, or thatTenet Diabetes is based on one ...).
I personally believe (and is scientifically demonstrated) that a positive attitude towards the disease (and adversity) is very important (essential I would say) and as I say demonstrated that it extends life.Sometimes in life you have to smile even if there are few reasons ... (even if only because it could be worse ...).
Nothing is further from me. I intention to disturb or offend anyone with my comment ... If I have done it, to forgive me ... I only intend that like I will see "the half full and not half empty glass"
Kisses to all and happy holidays.Nina45

Diabetica tipo II desde Diciembre de 2012 pero descendiente de diabéticos desde nacimiento
Medicacion: metformina de 850 gr mañana, mediodia y noche.
Ultima glicosila 6
Lema: "If you want a positive life, spent time with positive people!"

  
beti
12/18/2014 2:01 p.m.

Thank you for your words of mood, you are undoubtedly a great woman who must face life with the best of her smiles even if they come adversities, and that magnifies you as a person.I share that when the attitude is positive about any subject of life things are going better, I just pointed, others more rebels no matter how well you do things ...;When you follow an intensive tto you can't forget diabetes no matter how much you want, you accept and live with it.But I think that any disease in children is unfair, and when it is close to you, your soul hurts even if you smile ... a hug and happy parties.

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xdr
04/07/2018 5:56 p.m.

sarita83 said:
fear is free, indeed, but you educate a child in fear he will never dare to fend for himself outside the shadow of his parents.That child will live all if life with the trauma of thinking that it is different and that it cannot be done like the rest of the people, if that is what you want for your children there.But if you show him that this will not prevent him from leading a full life and you teach him to be self -sufficient I think he will lead a happier life and thank you.
Think that your children are the ones who know firsthand how they are, if you teach them to control, the time will come when he corrects you.For this I see very positive that parents and children go to all diabetes courses that you can, together, so that you realize that diabetes is not a serious illness, I do not even consider a disease, because a well -carehealthy person.

But what barbarities, first of course that it is different as the lame or blind is and what their parents should do is try to know their deficiency and learn to live with it, that is not fear, it is to be consistent.

What do we do with the lame, we take away the possibility of orthopedic leg and medical assistance so that it does not traumatize?Of course, a wooden crutch that did that before and nothing happened.

I will also tell you that nursing is not just to do the controls and inject insulin or attend an emergency, so I see you do not know much about how we work, the nurse is a fundamental part in the education of your children at school with respect to her diseaseWhatever and do not forget, it is a bit of respite for the parents who also also give them unpayable tranquility we advise on many of their doubts.

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Dani Se
04/08/2018 5:15 a.m.

I do not feel that it is a pessimistic feeling, I think that those who participate and write are sincere, it does not mean that one cannot be happy, of course that yes, travel, dance, do different activities, fall in love, or talk about having children, but everythingHe has a plus and that plus is diabetes. As a mother of a 5 -year -old boy, I agree with Regina.How lucky you have that everything is so easy for me, to me many times happens to me that every day they are different although it does the same, and that their values ​​rise, sometimes go down without finding explanation, the risk of the hicc is, and oneHe works to have independent children but that does not mean that one worries. And the risk of the hypo and with children who still do not recognize symptoms is always. But good for me it is not a pessimistic forum!You are a touched with the magic wand!I congratulate you for how you solve everything, when I read you, I don't think you had diabetes!Greetings

Soy DANIELA, mamà de Tomás de 8 años. Con tresiba 9u y lispro en comidas desde mayo 2017 . Iport y free+miao miao2 con xdrip y nigthscout .
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