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The fruit goes up a lot !!!

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Calculate that 100 gr of kiwi is 1.3 rations HC, and the kiwis weigh

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I'm going to resume this a bit old issue to tell you something about how the fruit now affects me.

You will see, since I put on the sensor, I practically discarded the fruit because it climbed me a lot.

Now, as I have already mentioned in another subject, in the last review the LDL cholesterol was quite high, so I have put to the "supersan" regime (weighing 72kg for 1.87cm) and now as 6 or 7 pieces of fruitevery day.

Every time I have a hiccup, because I like a tangerine or a kiwi, or both.

After this roll we go to the grain, why before I got a lot and now a tangerine or an apple does not upload more than 25-30 glucose?

This noon, starting from 82 (it is seen that I spent the quick at lunch), I have eaten a small apple and a kiwi and I have stayed all afternoon between 100-110.
Even breakfast sandwich does not make me peaks if I accompanied it with some fruit, when a few months ago it was the opposite, a small pear or a tangerine was to get 60-70-80 in minutes.

Before I climbed with soda or juice, and it was all afternoon rectifying, if not it happened to me and went to hyper.

Those who understand a little, can it be that the LDL (eye, the triglycerides I have good) is high) because for a year I have practically not consumed any fiber of the fruit?

There I have read that the fiber is basic in the control of bad cholesterol.

PS: Forgive the billet but I finished dinner and I am a little bored with my two ounces of 99% pure chocolate

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12/05/2023 11:44 p.m.
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If it is not indiscretion, how much LDL do you have?

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12/06/2023 12:20 a.m.

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L

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if it is not indiscretion how much LDL you have? & Lt;/blockquot.

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12/06/2023 1:11 a.m.
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Pufff Mysteries .... @sandman may be that you now have more muscle and consume more glucose than before, or that you have some pancreatic reserve.
In your next consultation to the endocrine, it asks, but there are usually no clear answers.

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12/06/2023 1:33 p.m.

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Sandman said:
I will resume this a bit ancient to tell you something about how the fruit now affects me.

You will see, since I put on the sensor, I practically discarded the fruit because it climbed me a lot.

Now, as I have already mentioned in another subject, in the last review the LDL cholesterol was quite high, so I have put to the "supersan" regime (weighing 72kg for 1.87cm) and now as 6 or 7 pieces of fruitevery day.

Every time I have a hiccup, because I like a tangerine or a kiwi, or both.

After this roll we go to the grain, why before I got a lot and now a tangerine or an apple does not upload more than 25-30 glucose?

This noon, starting from 82 (it is seen that I spent the quick at lunch), I have eaten a small apple and a kiwi and I have stayed all afternoon between 100-110.
Even breakfast sandwich does not make me peaks if I accompanied it with some fruit, when a few months ago it was the opposite, a small pear or a tangerine was to get 60-70-80 in minutes.

Before I climbed with soda or juice, and it was all afternoon rectifying, if not it happened to me and went to hyper.

Those who understand a little, can it be that the LDL (eye, the triglycerides I have good) is high) because for a year I have practically not consumed any fiber of the fruit?

There I have read that the fiber is basic in the control of bad cholesterol.

PS: Forgive the billet but I finished dinner and I am a little bored with my two ounces of 99%pure chocolate

How can you eat 99%chocolate?😱😱😱
I tried it once and it almost gives me something ... God, how bitter !!!

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12/06/2023 5:08 p.m.

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@isabelBota, I bought once and I couldn't even with a piece, it is abundable !!

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Isabelbota said:
sandman said:
I will resume this slightly old topic to tell you something about how the fruit now affects me.

You will see, since I put on the sensor, I practically discarded the fruit because it climbed me a lot.

Now, as I have already mentioned in another subject, in the last review the LDL cholesterol was quite high, so I have put to the "supersan" regime (weighing 72kg for 1.87cm) and now as 6 or 7 pieces of fruitevery day.

Every time I have a hiccup, because I like a tangerine or a kiwi, or both.

After this roll we go to the grain, why before I got a lot and now a tangerine or an apple does not upload more than 25-30 glucose?

This noon, starting from 82 (it is seen that I spent the quick at lunch), I have eaten a small apple and a kiwi and I have stayed all afternoon between 100-110.
Even breakfast sandwich does not make me peaks if I accompanied it with some fruit, when a few months ago it was the opposite, a small pear or a tangerine was to get 60-70-80 in minutes.

Before I climbed with soda or juice, and it was all afternoon rectifying, if not it happened to me and went to hyper.

Those who understand a little, can it be that the LDL (eye, the triglycerides I have good) is high) because for a year I have practically not consumed any fiber of the fruit?

There I have read that the fiber is basic in the control of bad cholesterol.

PS: Forgive the billet but I finished dinner and I am a little bored with my two ounces of 99%pure chocolate

How can you eat 99%chocolate?😱😱😱
I tried it once and it almost gives me something ... God, how bitter !!!

I don't know, how and that's it.I read there that cocoa has many properties, as long as it is the highest possible percentage.
I take it as another food complement.
I take that 99%, the 85% or the 92% as it seems.

As it happens to me with some fruits or vegetables such as tomato or broccoli, which I have never liked and now I force myself to eat them almost daily.

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12/06/2023 7:02 p.m.
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anaisabel said:
@Isabelbota, I bought once and I couldn't even with a little piece, it is abundable !!
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I have the tablet that I bought almost whole thinking of using it for desserts, coverage, which I miss and a little saccharin to the 85% to cover almond flour cakes.But then I think that as I am still abundant I will have to throw the cake and I do not dare ...
The one of 85 seems strong to me according to the day but as sometimes, but the one of 99 ... is mortal.
@Sandman, what a iron will you have if you eat it without like it ...

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12/06/2023 7:55 p.m.

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As a little fruit because it goes up a lot, once kiwi or peach in summer but as more red fruits (strawberries, blueberries and raspberries with Greek yogurt).Even putting me more insulin, it makes me a very fast peak and it costs a lot that it goes down, the red fruits does not but the rest is.

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12/06/2023 9:18 p.m.
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It is what we always talk about ... that each one is a world.
I don't have much problem with the fruit.With the rapid soil control it well ... and without fast, to trace by eg hypoglycemia, I take very little ... like 0'5 ration, and it is going well ...
It also depends on the fruit, but the truth is not something that avoids in the diet.Be careful, but I think it's quite beneficial.

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12/06/2023 10:23 p.m.

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Well, if you are 70 and you eat a tangerine, because you can sit very well ... it depends on the amount of fruit, on the moment, the rapid ..
It has many vitamins and fiber and can be replaced by another meal ..,

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12/07/2023 11:08 a.m.

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Let's see, forgive that it makes me heavy but here there is something that does not fit me.

I have put 7 novorapid units at 9:30 and about 10 and 15 I have had the following breakfast:
-An Sánwich of oat bread with cooked ham.The bread weighed 80 grams.
-Anandaine.Over 100 grams.
-A kiwi.About 125 grams.
-A good handful of blueberries.About 50 grams.

At 12 less I have eaten another 100 grams mandarin because the glucose was going down too much and I thought I did not arrive at the time of the food.

It is now half past 12 and I am 95 of stable blood glucose.

I have counted 7 portions (not counting blueberries) and that, at breakfast, for me it would be to click at least 9-10 units.At breakfast multiplies by 1.3 or 1.4 the rations to calculate the insulin to put.

Edito: He keeps going down.He is going down to 85 while writing this.I'm going to eat a small apple.Another 125-150 grams.

In total more than 8 rations for only 7 units of fast.

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12/07/2023 12:36 p.m.
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@Sandman: If you can eat "between hours" without putting insulin, or you are exercising a lot or you have slow insulin or your pancreas still works a little

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12/07/2023 1:25 p.m.

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ricki21 said:
@sandman: if you can eat "between hours" without putting insulin, or you are exercising a lot of exercise or you have plenty of slow insulin or your pancreas still works a little </blockquote

I already tell you that by exercise sure that is not.

As for the slow one, I have been waking up in the rank every morning and the rest of the day I am going well.

My pancreas I don't know how it will be now because more than a year ago they looked at me the C peptide and was rather regular.

It is how I know now had less insulin resistance in the morning.

To all this, after all that I have had breakfast with only 7 units of fast I am now in Hip, in 67. :(: S

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12/07/2023 1:51 p.m.
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@Sandman
Obviously still segregas insulin.And if you are taking care of the food and putting insulin the pancreas is more relaxed.I am like you and similar things happen to me.By streaks there are things that do not upload me and other gusts yes, it is as if the pancreas operates in bolbotones.
That Segregas Insulina I have clear from those parties that you spent without fast.With zero insulin of the pancreas that is not possible.
Something similar happens to me in the morning.Before I put 2 quickly and reached 140/150.I had to go down to 1.5 and there are days that I do not spend 110. Breakfast the same.Sometimes I even add a piece of apple.
These things happen to those who do not yet have the pancreas exhausted at all.
A question, when did you diagnose you positively in antibodies?

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12/07/2023 2:17 p.m.

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@isabelbota @sandman but that also happens to those of us, without any insulin reserve ...
There are gusts that suddenly, I need more insulin, others less ... and I have not changed any habit!It is the difficult thing for me and my diabetes.Without "doing anything different", I have to correct the basal pattern for times and what to say of the sensitivity ratio with the rapid.Hence my "lack of control."When I have the stable guideline, Hale!I start again ... without cutting if I exercise more, I am with a cold, some infection, menstruation, the time, extreme heat, something that my body is doing that I do not know ... etc, etc ...
This is a bit chaos.That's why I always tell everyone that this is not so easy, nor are they mathematics, hopefully!

All this, apart from the fact that you still produce some insulin, of course @sandman
Courage and to calibrate ... there is no other.Maybe now you have some slow, even if you get up in rank.

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12/07/2023 3 p.m.

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Isabelbota said:
@sandman
Obviously still segregas insulin.And if you are taking care of the food and putting insulin the pancreas is more relaxed.I am like you and similar things happen to me.By streaks there are things that do not upload me and other gusts yes, it is as if the pancreas operates in bolbotones.
That Segregas Insulina I have clear from those parties that you spent without fast.With zero insulin of the pancreas that is not possible.
Something similar happens to me in the morning.Before I put 2 quickly and reached 140/150.I had to go down to 1.5 and there are days that I do not spend 110. Breakfast the same.Sometimes I even add a piece of apple.
These things happen to those who do not yet have the pancreas exhausted at all.
A question, when you diagnosed you positive in antibodies?

Yes, I gave positive, but I can't tell you more because I don't have the reports at hand.I only remember that when I debuted and the endocrine saw my first analysis did not hesitate for a second to decide that it was type I. So I suppose it was quite clear.

I guess what you tell me, that I still have some reserve and my pancreas has given these days to run.

In food it has happened to me again.Lentils, salad and fruit stew and at the time I was in 54. On other occasions that I have eaten and punctured the same I have not dropped from 120-130 to 2 hours.

The doses will have to be changed.

I will take advantage of these holidays to try.

Thanks to everyone.

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12/07/2023 4:27 p.m.
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@Sandman, because you have perfect controls even if you have to eat.
What slow do you use?There are slowly slower than others.
But diabetes is like that, no day is the same as another.

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12/07/2023 6:24 p.m.

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regina said:
@sandman, because you have perfect controls even if you have to eat.
What slow do you use?There are slowly slower than others.
But diabetes is like that, no day is the same as another.

I started using Lantus, but a couple of years ago they changed me to Abasaglar.

I put 20 units at night and I notice that, sometimes, in the afternoon from six or so it begins to rise to dinner time that is placed again in more or less normal values.

As for eating, nothing happens.After months without taking almost any fruit because now to take advantage and eat everything I can.From breakfast I have 3 tangerines, an apple, blueberry, a kiwi and several ounces of chocolate at 82%.All that apart from normal daily food and with the same insulin.

I don't complain.Worse it would be to not be able to eat anything, right?;)

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