About these figures

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joejunior
08/28/2015 12:48 p.m.

Hello,

I am 33 years old.When I am at my father's house I always try to control the sugar because he has a bad glucose control for a few years (now he has 71).One morning it occurred to me to prick myself, with a result of 106 newly raised and without breakfast.Alarmed, I decided to track.A few days ago, at night, I had a pizza (quite, the truth), and my result at 2 hours was 159, from 147 to 2 and a half hours, and at 3 hours and 1/2 it was 121. BeforeCenar was in a normal range of 98.

My results during these days of glucose monitoring I do not know if they are valid because the truth is that I have eaten very well, I have followed a good diet and I have done a lot of daily exercise.The fact is that they were normal.Of course, even reducing the dose (of cereals in the morning, only a little handful in the morning and a healthy fruit in terms of sugars -or apple or kiwi-), the values ​​at 2 hours exceeded 110 that although it is normal,Because of how little I have eaten, it seems strange to me that it did not normalize less than 100 at 2 hours (being the maximum 140, I think that with the little as in terms of carbohydrates it should be almost normal after breakfast).

I finally visited my doctor, which gives me enough confidence.The truth is that it did not give almost importance to those figures, not even those of the pizza night.He asked me for an analytical and had 5.5%glucosilada.My BMI is 29.4, and my abdominal perimeter of 109.

What can be happening and do you think should give less importance to glucose figures?The doctor has sent me diet and exercise and ensures that glucose levels will go down if I lose weight, has anyone achieved that result with that?

Thanks for reading me.This community undoubtedly helps.

A hug.

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joejunior
08/28/2015 12:49 p.m.

Eye!!For some reason the subject has doubled after an error message, and now I cannot erase this extra theme.Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Anitaz
08/28/2015 2:58 p.m.

Hello!I don't have much experience with diabetes yet, but my opinion serves you, they seem normal values.When I started with the blood glucose controls, sometimes I controlled my husband (which is not diabetic) and had values ​​like yours.Perhaps the glucosilada is a little high (within normal) but surely goes down when you lose weight and balanced commas.Think that it is always preferable to take care of yourself by choice and not by obligation, so get to work with those kilos of more and everything will be good!

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joejunior
08/28/2015 5:24 p.m.

I think that given my background I have to continue with the diet and lower weight.They are high figures if we get from a technical point of view:
- 70 - 100 on an empty stomach after waking up without having breakfast.
- 70 - 110 after 3 hours after meals.
- 70 - 140 after 2 hours after meals.

Anyway, what am I going to tell here that you do not know.I put it in case I have misunderstood any data, but I understand that these are correct.

If they are, I get out of rank and you have to act.I have been exploring the forum in search of more cases and there are people with prediabetes that have figures like that.

Thanks Anitaz for your answer.Your husband is overweight as is my case?

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Artorias
08/28/2015 6:16 p.m.

Well, 159 at two hours of eating pizza, no matter how much you have eaten, it seems a lot to a normal person.My girlfriend at 2 hours of eating pizza does not go from 100.

I would begin to take care of, sport, decent food, lower weight, and periodic reviews to rule out type 2 diabetes.

Or at least ask for a steering wheel and see a good endocrine and tell the subject.

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Inday
08/28/2015 7:05 p.m.

I agree with @Artorias, 159 seems a bit high for a healthy person.Try to lose weight and surely tis glycemias and your glycosilada go down.

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Anitaz
08/28/2015 7:28 p.m.

When is the highest peak after a meal?Is it 30 '?While the endocrinologist recommended me controlling at 2 hours of eating (and not before) I am doing some control just after meals (I confess to being a little obsessive haha) and I discovered that for example, after breakfast with bread (2 slices of roasted whole bread) had a peak of 156!Thing that seemed to me a barbarity, because what I think is: even if at 2 hours I am in normal values, the effort that my pancreas supposes (already in itself) to return to a normal level from higher peaks will makeexhaust faster, this is the case?So it is important to know how much you shoot after eating and I do not understand why you do not want the doctor that controls me just after eating ... since I eliminated the toasts not pass from 100-110 after eating and I suppose it issomething good, right?

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Regina
08/28/2015 7:38 p.m.

You have to take into account the 15% error that glucometers can give.

Hija de 35 años , diabética desde los 5. Glico: normalmente de 6 , pero 6,7 la última ( 6,2 marcaba el Free)
Fiasp: 4- 4- 3 Toujeo: 20

  
joejunior
08/29/2015 1:32 p.m.

Thank you all for your answers.Precisely I published my figures here so that people with more experience gave me their opinion, since I also seemed very high figures.@Arotorias is very likely that it has a further weight from the ideal than your girlfriend, but, when you say it is at least 100, with which it is less than 140 normal values ​​would be condemned at 2 hours, right?

Yesterday night I took glycemia at 3 hours, and I had it at 111, too high because I understand that at 3 hours it should be less than 110, nor did I have bad.

@Regina The error of the glucometers can be both with higher and lower figures, right?

It is a bit striking that the header has given little importance to these figures, don't you think?

And just one more thing, how effective is the fact of losing weight?Is it really so important to the point of normalizing glycemia after a great carbohydrate intake as is the case with pizza?

Thank you all, a hug.

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Inday
08/29/2015 3:01 p.m.

@Joejunior Your figures are considered normal values ​​which happens that the high margin would be within normality so to speak.Excess fat makes insulin resistance increase quite a lot that many times type2 diabetes is associated with obesity.

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joejunior
08/29/2015 3:49 p.m.

Hi @inday, thank you very much for your answer.So, 159 is a normal value?It is that if I consult the criteria of the ADA, they tell you that they have to be less than 180;But if I consult in the Diabetes Association they tell me that they are maximum 140. I am made a mess.

I have been diet + exercise for days in order to reduce my abdominal perimeter of 109, which is what most worried my doctor.

Meanwhile, I will be very attentive to this forum, there is very good information.

A hug for all.

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Inday
08/29/2015 11:06 p.m.

@joejunior The truth is that I am not a doctor, but I had always heard/read that a post> 180 was diagnostic criteria of diabetes.I guess it is best to consult with your doctor.

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joejunior
08/30/2015 11:39 a.m.

Hi @inday
It is that the ada and the European seem to have dissimilar criteria.In the latter, they indicate that more than 140 is criteria for prediabetes, provided that it does not exceed 200, which is therefore diabetes criteria.All these values ​​at 2 hours.

This means that the night of the pizza was in prediabetic values ​​(bad postprandial control at 2 hours).And one morning, with 106, too.This is what worries me.

Now that I am with diet and exercise, after meals I have a good control.But these are very, very healthy.So my question is:

- If I am doing a low carbohydrate diet, are those healthy values ​​reliable if I am not putting sugars to the body anyway?How can I know if I am recovering or if I return to eat something with carbohydrates I will have unhealthy values?
- After prediabetes, if it is overcome, can you return to a diet that includes excesses from time to time?
- Is prediabetes a chronic condition in most cases?

A hug to all.

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Regina
08/30/2015 1:11 p.m.

You will have to keep taking care and make a clinical analytics from time to time.Diagnosed prediabetes is chronic ..

Hija de 35 años , diabética desde los 5. Glico: normalmente de 6 , pero 6,7 la última ( 6,2 marcaba el Free)
Fiasp: 4- 4- 3 Toujeo: 20

  
joejunior
08/30/2015 3:48 p.m.

Hi @regina

Thanks for your answer and for your experience.He understood that prediabetes was possible to reverse it.

A hug

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DiabetesForo
08/30/2015 3:58 p.m.

Hi Joe, I share my experience in case you get something.I am 40 years old and several direct relatives with type II diabetes.In April 2015, as a result of glucometer controls that made me about 2 times per year (and I was always around 80 ...) I detected fasting glycemia values ​​around 110 at repetition (postprandials OK), soI got scared to work, reducing hydrates, exercising almost daily and thinning 4 kilos (from 56 to 52).A month later the analytics gave me 85 and hem of 5.75.My header told me to continue with reduction of sugars and refined products, and mandatory exercise several times a week.That with those values ​​I do not need to consult a specialist.
As I am thin, I have a healthy diet always and not consume sugars because I do not like the sweets, I do not have too much margin of action.As I see the effect of the disease in my relatives, the issue worries me seriously I take great care.With this system I have followed fasting values ​​every day of 90-95.And I suppose I have relaxed the diet because I have recovered a kilo ...
I must say that I feel much better than before!
However, and in reference to one of your questions, although my values ​​are normal at the expense of diet and effort, the problem is still.If one night ceno pizza and beer or pasta or some of that, I have values ​​above 100. That is, the small excess is felt (equally every so often I allow it ... 1 per month let's say).
So I assume that this is forever, good control without medication will last what the pancreas decides, that I can not do more.But I feel lucky to be able to delay something that has to come.

I encourage that even with little weight reduction results are achieved.
Greetings!

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joejunior
08/30/2015 6:15 p.m.

Hi @peper

Thanks for your answer.Well, go ...

I understand that your problem is fasting glucose.My glycosilada is currently 5.5%, my doctor did not give any importance and did not give me specific dietary indications, only to reduce my weight (an BMI of 29 and peak is a strong overweight, and almost obesity).But I had the fly behind my ear and now I see that it is not so simple.

I have been in that regime for 21 days, and the truth is that I hope that I would return to normal with the passing of the months and the improvement of my BMI, and I could fit again normally meals such as pizza orPasta, but I see that it will not be so.This means that when we talk about "reverse prediabetes", we are actually talking about "returning to normal glucose values ​​as long as you are doing the diet."

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