Thanks for your answers!
Hansolo said:
It is a problem that the sensors take off, look where you look.Logical?Well, relatively.Maybe I would say better than "expected" seeing what happens to the rest.But they should work in that aspect.
Well, I think that "working" in that is delicate, 14 days seems almost impossible, and if you have to walk very carefully from the 4 day you don't rub with clothes because it is half fallen (as happens toall), neither does it seem appropriate.
Today, and in a long time, it is time to manage to have it stuck.
Hansolo said:
.The gut always has more sweating than the arm.Therefore, I keep my arm as the best option.
Yes, it has better sweat, but remember the "stigma" of carrying "that" and its corresponding bandages in one arm.I don't care, and more in Galicia that are 3-4 months, I could endure, but it is certainly a stigma to take that in sight, or perhaps they only look at me if I carry the sensor in my arm and mangaCut
Hansolo said:
It is continuous full -fledged measurement.Do not see it in the receiver more than when you escape, it is a detail that differentiates it.But reading is continuous.The concept of these devices is called continuous measurement because they measure continuously, not continuous visualization.And this ABBOTT apparatus reads continuously, even many more times than the Dexcom that you defend with such vehemence.and that the Guardian.
Yes, it is a continuous measurement that is true, but not only does not show it continuously, but also lacks the convenient alarms and trends, that is, you do not receive any warning before a change of tendency that you have programmed, or a certain levelof glucose reached.Continuous measurement on demand as you say, or deferred.
Without a doubt, if you read more frequently than the Dexcom, much more, and Navigator 2 (sorry, I talked about the Guardian but I am confused, I mean Navigator 2, which also reads more than the Dexcom).It is not that defending Dexcom, moreover, I do not defend the G4 for example, I defend what I have, because I do very well ... Dexcom takes advantage of what he has, and instead of giving us more, he gives us less.Personally, Dexcom has saved my life, of being "lost" to having moderately clear the way.Nothing else.
Hansolo said:
Well, looking at the Dexcom or Medtronic screen is not only simple, but convenient.Waiting for me to be because I am in hypoglycemia is in my opinion an error.A hypoglycemia is by definition a failure of therapy, with all the asterisks you want to put to this phrase.And you have to avoid them yes or yes.That the device whips me the same: I cannot wait for that value to arrive.And any of the existing 3 now allows us to avoid it.That is the advantage of having a continuous meter: avoid glycemic peaks, both above and below, and anticipate.
If I give you the reason that it is convenient to look at it (Dexcom or Abbott Navigatorii, I insist, my mistake talking about, I get a mess), but sometimes it is sometimes lazy.In what you are in a clear mistake is to whistle in "hypoglycemia" ... severe error.For my dexcom it has some defects, of course (economic the first) but another for example, that the alarm cannot be put to more than 100¡¡ ¡¡¡¡¡than ridiculous.
I have a "alarm" of hip in 100, which for another person is normal, it gives me a little time to react and see where I am ... obviously, put an alarm at 60, or wait for the 55 of the Dexcom,It seems to me a mistake, just as I understand diabetes, another that is very fine will do well.
Of course, the alarms are avoided ... you are sleeping, you whistle and you are 95 .... Well, I go and as something, with 95 and 6 hours ahead I do not risk closing my eyes.That is why the alarms are useful, each one puts what he considers for their rhythm of life, I have 100 and 260 high ... another will put 60 and 180 ... perfect, it does not work for me, but to another yes,Nothing to object.
The same thing you say is something that with the ABBOTT you will not be able to avoid ... the hypoglycemia ... at night, forget, do not have that warning, not that you have reached 50, if not that you have reached 100 andLook "where are you" (arrows, etc).You are going to wake up with hypoglycemia and period, and that, as you say is a failure, I tell you because I also know.If I put the Dexcom to 60, I am not at anything, I am already in hiccups, binge, upload and everything we want, but at 100 ... to 100 if I react calmly.
The Dexcom will avoid that nocturnal hypo ... the Navigator too ... the flash ... I don't know how.
And I say it again, years ago I took a fanta with 50 ... now I take it with 120 and 2 arrows going down! That not only whips the scheduled level ... also the 2 arrows ... because you can bein 120 and 2 drops of descent, and that it is necessary because it is necessary!
All of that is what is lost with the flash, which I understand that many are not important, I do not judge anyone, in my case it is vital :)
Hansolo said:>
What an obsession.You are just as "slave" looking at your dexcom who spending free through the arm.The difference is a simple gesture of more in free ... and thousands of euros less in your pocket with respect to mine XDDDDD
Well, if you say, nothing to object ... as I say, sometimes I whistle and being "absorbed" in my hobby, "step" (as well as I have that "margin" of alarm to 100, then...), If you think that being in my hobby without anyone notifying me, I'm going to "pass it" well ... I already tell you that I don't, I forget, and hypo the song (because it already happens to the Dexcom when "Reniego"To look at him, and see what my wife tells me .... Look at it.)
Hansolo said:
I go on a motorcycle and never recommend that practice.Unless you are one of those few people who have completely asymptomatic and very fulminant hypoglycemia (I don't know, you are still in that group).That type of people simply should stop driving (and in fact the law can prohibit it if that happens to them).In the other cases, I do not see at all necessary to look at the value.You look at it before starting ... You can look at it when you make a stop on your way ... or if it is a trip, stop expressly to look at the blood glucose (recommended).But going looking at the device ... is exaggerated and unnecessary.
No, luckily in 16 years I never lost knowledge or used glucagon (only a few days after debuting and in the class of the educator I fell, I had no idea), remember that it is more dangerous that has hemoglobin "Perfect "than the one who has it high and constant values much higher.
I assure you that if you use a field motorcycle, you sweat and exercise, and you can perfectly take a hiccGet hand in a pocket or if you carry the bag, click on top, as if you changed the radio station), of course, measure blood glucose with a motorcycle capillary meter and running, impossible, and with the flash, easier, easier, moreBut neither is very comfortable, that is "mess" -impossible if you take it on the left side because you have to use the other arm- .. for me it is not exaggerated, but what is said, there will be people who have it at stable levels everythingThe weather, and will not even need a meter of these, which will be!
Hansolo said:
The concept of expensive and cheap is subjective.That must be taken into account.But for a majority of people, I understand that any expense is expensive, because things are as they are.€ 120 per month is money and many will not be able to afford it, but infinitely more bearable than their twocompetitorsIf I have to choose right now, I do not doubt me a millisecond.If you are clear, nothing to object to me, then it is clear that the device is the best for you.Of money, of course it is subjective ... and especially when you are unemployed like the present ... believe me that if I don't want to do something it is "wicked" money.Can't.
Hansolo said:
If any zero cost gives them to me, I am left with the free.It has demonstrated more accuracy than competitors.both in the official figures given by brands and in the independent studies that have been made, where the Navigator was above.The G4 is smaller now, but it is still a dead.And that of Medtronic screams for both hardware (pump housing, pump miniplop, amazing) and software.Free does not need to calibrate, it guarantees exact values from day 1 to 14, lasts more its sensor (without artificial stretching full of ??? and incongruous values), the sensor is more comfortable to carry, lighter, do not find out thanYou carry it, the AGP management software is better with its trend indication algorithms, the applicator is in-child-ta-men better than Dexcom and much better than Medtronic ... I better leave it there, that IThe fingers hurt.
That said, your posture, in addition, of palpable (the economic "condition" is no longer useful), I think it is your device.
Hansolo said:
That is like saying that a Pentium is better than a quad core.It has been more than clear that free is above benefits, accuracy, cost, maintenance, etc.Will you not have dexcom Inc actions?I start thinking about it :-)
Already ... I understand you ... a pentium with alarms or a quadcore without them ... I suppose it depends on what each one needs.
By the way, I am going to tell you one thing talking about those actions ... yesterday I gave order, although it was not finally executed by not reaching my price, to buy about 3000 euros of Abbot, as you hear it ... because I think it has a future, not now, not this one, but it will go entering the SS and will grow.Dexcom actions?I had to have bought them 5 years ago ... and I will buy them, but not now, it's not the time ... we're going to wait for the downturn, and then yes :).Curious not ... criticizing Abbott, and buying actions from them ... is like this :)
Hansolo said:
It gives the feeling as this progress gives you rage, really.€ 60 The receiver, € 60 the sensor.There are no deceptions.I understand that it hurts, but it is like when I bought my laptop (from which I write to you now).It was an HP cucumber, all luxury on the outside and benefits inside.But 5 years have passed and today I am looking for another because it cannot with many programs.It is what there is, Pablo.We cannot fight that.The numbers are incontestable.And free wins by the others: 1000 to 59. That is the result of the game in which Abbott wins (well, there is more than 1000 what the Dexcom costs).And here there are no emitters to change, which is another shameful sablazo every year.
Believe me, not at all!Of bread, good are cakes ... but I speak in my case that I need, imperative, continuous measurement with alarms, alarms, most importantly, alarms!
Without a doubt, what you say about the devices and prices, very good for Abbott ... but I wait per year for the ABBOTT Navigator 3 that is with the same technology but continuous measurement (if they have the sensor, which transmits!And if you have to pay transmitter, it is paid, in exchange for real measurement, I pay it, I have no choice).
But if you tell me "anger for progress" ... well sometimes, I have it .. foreg, the Dexcom G4 ... Of course it gave me anger!Of course, they reduce the size of the receiver (what we carry in the pocket), the receiver puts a beautiful screen with small numbers and that to the sun, then ... (remember the motorcycle!), the transmitter,Apart from its size, they go and reduce life about 3 times! And then the performance is almost traced ... ok, it reaches 6 meters instead of 1 ... the only clear advance at the expense of everything.Well yes, that gives me angry! And it gives me more anger, because when it ends whatever the Seven Plus, it turns out that I have to jxxer and swallow with that ... even more anger!
And if I complain about Dexcom, I complained about Abbott ... I expected a continuous measurement, Abbott can, he has his Navigatorii ... and they will get it out, fixed.Because that medication that Abbott takes out has ballots to go to the SS ... Dexcom is American, and here few interests he has.
Hansolo said:
The good thing about all this - I don't know if I said it here or elsewhere, I have answered this post one hour - is that we will all benefit from this novelty.Or the others move or the market is abbott.And the prices are what they are.If there are sales, they do not go up.It is the law of supply and demand.Well, I also want it to be so!If now comes the Navigator III, to me give DexcomI don't think it's short term.In other words, the user of a Dexcom or a Navigator II I do not think he feels encouraged to change to the flash, he will not win anything, and lose a lot.Economic issue apart.Perhaps for the one that among this in this, it will be an intermediate jump and step.But what was said, hopefully the other meters are accumulated on shelves and are sold at the balance price, sensors, and the used market is filled with machines and sensors ...
Hansolo said:
I am clear (and I have also said this to the questions they have asked me somewhere) that the SNS will put the sensors in their benefits.Because on the one hand, there are already studies that support that the continuous measurement allows to improve the control of diabetes, and on the other, because certain type 1 (eye, an MCG is not suitable for all) will be assumed to give 2 sensors per monthinstead of 4 boxes of strips (as they give me right now).If today I had to go to the pharmacy for material paying me from my pocket, I would spend € 200 on strips against € 120 in free sensors.Striking, right?Against science you cannot fight.And it is inevitable that these consumables end up entering the SNS.Although it will cost.
I think it is the post that has taken me the most time in the many years that I have been in this for forums ...
Yes, I hope it is so, because it not only allows to improve control, it gives an impressive quality of life that is what worries me and before I did not have.What bothers me is that the flash will give it to the SS (eye, it does not bother me for the users, huh?) I bother me, that if they give me 6 boxes a month of strips (cost 270 euros according to what it marksThe paper that they send me), with less of that money (198 euros a month) I could have the dexcom and paid me from my pocket, and the device, even the transmitter ... we all won.But square heads do not see this, and surely they need a couple of trips to the Caribbean, an iPhone for their wife and an iPad for your child ... Not to mention a bicycle of 5000 euros.And we understand each other.But hey, the important thing is to start and they will do it for the flash ... hopefullyThen the range of choice is extended, such as strips.
I'm glad I made you pound the keyboard for a while! :) I love to exchange opinions ... and I have time!
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