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Health presumes to save by forcing diabetics

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The Ministry of Healreactive, a system to measure the glucose in key blood to calibrate your medication.Before the measure, the product cost 0.45 euros.The general director of Pharmacy, José Clerigues, estimated that the recipe fertilizer will mean savings to public coffers of 34%.

Clerigues revealed this data in an email sent to the management and financial departments of the main public hospitals of the community, to which the country had access.

The estimate and gesture sat like a jug of cold water among the representatives of the 800,000 Valencians suffering from the disease, according to the Diabetes prevalence study.The president of the Federation of Diabetics of the Valencian Community (Fedicova), Mercedes Sánchez, lamented the attitude of the Consell and warned of its consequences among the patients with less resources."Sounding 50 euros every two months, which is what this treatment costs, can be a dispensation for those who earn 400 euros," he said.And censored the Clerican mail."It cannot be proud that the Generalitat gets chest of a cut."The copayment affects patients who control their disease with insulin injections, 6% of the total, according to Fedicova.

An expert in health management pointed out the "danger" that the co -payment relaxes the control of the sick and causes complications in the future."In a few months there could be more diabetics in emergencies, which would mean that the Government would have left the cylinder head," said this specialist who works for the Valencian Health Agency.

It cannot be proud that the Generalitat gets chest from a cut
PSPV deputy Ignacio Subías urged health to reveal the medical consequences of implementing co -payment to diabetics.

From the Ministry of the mail of the Director General of Pharmacy was removed.Health recalled that the Generalitat achieved in June "a saving of eight million" by renegotiating with the laboratories the acquisition of reactive strips.With the agreement, each container has a price for the Valencian Health Agency of 21.95 euros, according to a spokeswoman of the department directed by Luis Rosado.

Treating a diabetes patient (3,000 euros per year) costs twice as much as the rest of the patients and is an expense of 1.8 billion a year, according to Fedicova.

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07/21/2012 3:33 a.m.
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The east subject, clergy, is no surprise;We know some well.

Fedicova: D do not know where the air gives them ...

The serious thing is not the contribution ... in the context we are, with everyone having to pay for their medications is expected.
The problem is that we only do the Valencians, which means comparative grievance.
Equity ... is defined very well in the Cohesion Law of the National Health System.

The serious thing is that they charge patients ... apply 10% to € 30 cost, when they have been invoicing 2 months at € 21.95
80 cents are not much ... but if we multiply by 4 ... it's 3 euros
And in the conditions that are some, they cannot go down happily or a cent.

Fedicova ... The copayment affects all patients with diabetes, not only those who injected insulin ... to all, because everyone has to pay and everyone pays the same, with insulin and with oral antidiabetics (I remember that patientsWith type 2, self -analysis is also performed ... even by your doctor's advice).

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07/21/2012 3:46 a.m.
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In Andalusia we continue to pay € 0.45 for the box with 100 strips, the insulin does not know if they will have touched it because I have not yet bought.I don't understand anything, why do some yes and others?

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07/21/2012 6:32 a.m.
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What magnificent managers cutting only from the "easy"!Will they have made accounts that these savings in the long run are very expensive?

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07/22/2012 6:07 a.m.
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In Castilla-La Mancha we do not pay anything for strips, needles and lancetas ... hopefully continue like this

In any case, it is easier to pay diabetics than to go against all corrupt politics of all political parties to return what they have stolen.

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08/17/2012 1:38 p.m.
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Well say that we live in Andalusia and since last month we pay for the 100 strips box 3.60 euros.

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08/17/2012 6:12 p.m.
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In Castilla-La Mancha we do not pay anything for strips, needles and lancetas ... hopefully continue like this

Anyway, it is easier to pay diabetics than to go against all corrupt politics of all political parties to return what they have stolen.

We do not pay, but at least in my province, they have cut the number of strips that give every month, in my case of good firstI was assigned 90 lancets per month, (they are generous and give me 2 boxes, that is, 100).

Why don't they have 100 containers here, which will always be cheaper than 50? ... I would like to know how each boat of 50 strips comes out, because it seems to me, there must be a lotIntermediary that sucks, since I do not believe that I get more or less, at the same price as the one that has a German website, where I usually buy some things.

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08/24/2012 5:18 a.m.
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In the Valencian Community, each recipe for reactive strips is invoiced for € 22.20
€ 20 are paid by public health and € 2.20 the user

In Andalusia the cost is lower: € 18
€ 1.8 are paid by the user and € 16.2 public health

In Canaria it is € 25.80, in Navarra € 17.84

In the SESCAM I have no data ... but this is another sample of the nonsense that is health management.
A single negotiation with the 6 or 7 trademarks and a single price for all communities ... I am sure that the price would drop 10 or 15%

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08/24/2012 5:57 a.m.
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Andalusia since July 1, Huelva, payment € 3.80 per box of 100tars instead of the previous 0.45.

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09/04/2012 6:56 p.m.
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Pablo, did you pay € 0.45 for the 50 -strips boat or for the 100 recipe?
I think Andalusia is one of the few places where the recipes of 100 strips have been authorized.
In Valencia they did not want to do it ... incomprehensible because they had saved bureaucracy, unless it was only for type 1.

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09/05/2012 11:47 a.m.
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We paid 0.45 for the 100tara box.
Now € 3.85 in my case.

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