Meaningless calculate in many cases the dose of the rapids at two hours

Let's see .. for myself and for many comments that I have seen about the time of effect of the rapids, it makes no sense in many cases to control two hours later since for example to me at breakfast especially, it begins to take effectAt 3 or even at 4 o'clock, if I trust the control of two hours, would the dose always have to upload, it happens to you?

Toujeo 28
Novorapid 10-8-6

@tamara4: Where do you get the fast at breakfast time?Are you waiting for a long time?

Yes, it happens to me the same, but I don't know if it is because I have been db for many years and I can have some insulin resistance or some gastroparesia, with what has some delay in gastric emptying.I only know that especially after lunch, I am perfect at 2 hours but at 3 it goes up and it is not for lack of slow or having eaten a lot of fat or protein in lunch.

ricki21 said:
@tamara4: where do you get the fast at breakfast time?Are you waiting for a long time?

To me the effect does not start me until 3 am and its maximum peak at 4 am therefore if I want to do a control it would have to be from 3 hours because if I would not always register for example today at two hours I wasIn 230 after breakfast and at 4 hours at 130

meginer said:
yes, it happens to me the same, but I don't know if it is because I have been dB for many years and I can have some insulin resistance or some gastroparesia, with what I havesome delay in gastric emptying.I only know that especially after lunch, I am perfect at 2 hours but at 3 it goes up and it is not for lack of slow or having eaten a lot of fat or protein in lunch.

And from 3 hours you go down again?

tamara4 said:

ricki21 said:
@tamara4: where do you get the fast at breakfast time?Are you waiting for a long time?

To me the effect does not start me until 3 am and its maximum peak at 4 am therefore if I want to do a control it would have to be from 3 hours because if I would not always register for example today at two hours I wasIn 230 after breakfast and at 4 hours at 130

tamara4 said:

meginer said:
yes, it happens to me the same, but I don't know if it is because I have been db for many years and I can have some ofInsulin resistance or some gastroparesia, with which it has some delay in gastric emptying.I only know that especially after lunch, I am perfect at 2 hours but at 3 it goes up and it is not for lack of slow or having eaten a lot of fat or protein in lunch.

And from 3 hours you go down again?

It depends on the moment of the day and what I have eaten but most of the time not, and I have to correct myself, that is happening to me lately, before I was better.

meginer said:

tamara4 said:

meginer said:
meginer said:
yes, it happens to me the same, but I don't knowIf it is because I have been db for many years and can have some insulin resistance or some gastroparesia, with what has some delay in gastric emptying.I only know that especially after lunch, I am perfect at 2 hours but at 3 it goes up and it is not for lack of slow or having eaten a lot of fat or protein in lunch.

And from 3 hours you go down again?

It depends on the moment of the day and what I have eaten but most of the time not, and I have to correct myself, that is happening to me lately, before I was better.

Ok

It has been going on for 3 weeks, I do nothing more to correct and meaningless.Even if you don't eat anything in 16 hours, I get on.
Hormones, colds, a little of everything.
You no longer know one to eat.With all failure.

Among several factors it is also very important to assess whether in food there are carbohydrates of slow or fast absorption.For example, a 0 sugar cookie is not the same as another other than 0 even if they are of the same HC

@tamara4, what it is about is to lower the breakfast peak, which is the most difficult.It is not that the rapid takes effect at four hours, but at four hours you have already digested breakfast.
You can try another slower breakfast, drink yogurt instead of milk and some protein.
You can also divide breakfast into two shots, or increase the fast and eat something after three hours ..
And, in any case, wait between insulin and breakfast for at least fifteen minutes .. depending on how you get up ..

ruthbia said:
It has been going on for 3 weeks, I do nothing more to correct and meaningless.Even if you don't eat anything in 16 hours, I get on.
Hormones, colds, a little of everything.
You no longer know one to eat.With all failure.

This is, without any meaning

regina said:
@tamara4, what it is about is to lower the breakfast, which is the most difficult.It is not that the rapid takes effect at four hours, but at four hours you have already digested breakfast.
You can try another slower breakfast, drink yogurt instead of milk and some protein.
You can also divide breakfast into two shots, or increase the fast and eat something after three hours ..
And, in any case, wait between insulin and breakfast for at least fifteen minutes .. depending on how you get up ..

Yes, I wait up to half an hour before breakfast, so if it is because at four times I say breakfast, the fast does not take any effect?I don't understand and thanks in advance

Josem0129 said:
Among several factors it is also very important to assess whether in food there are carbohydrates of slow or fast absorption.For example, a 0 sugar cookie is not the same as another one that is not 0 even if they are of the same HC

Breakfast only about 20gr of integral bread and coffee with skim milk of course with saccharin, nothing more and I am getting 10 novorapid

ruthbia said:
It has been going on for 3 weeks, I do nothing more to correct and meaningless.Even if you don't eat anything in 16 hours, I get on.
Hormones, colds, a little of everything.
You no longer know one to eat.With all failure.

That is what happens to me, I do not know how to act because I cannot follow a pattern since the glucose is on its own does not depend on the insulin or on the schedule of peaks, or the hydrates it eats, it is meaningless andI am desperate

Well, that's what the sensors are, to check the sugar at any time.

Maybe it happens to you as my son Diabetco (and like everyone) that cortisol is generated in the morning and that is why there is more sugar.
It is the morning handicap and you have to take it into account, but for those who begin in the world of diabetes that do not overwhelm, they will take the truquillo.

@tamara4: In which area do you inject the insulin of breakfast?

In

lowcarb said:
well, that's what the sensors are, to check the sugar at any time.

Maybe it happens to you as my son Diabetco (and like everyone) that cortisol is generated in the morning and that is why there is more sugar.
It is the morning handicap and you have to take it into account, but for those who begin in the world of diabetes that do not overwhelm, they will take the truquillo.

ricki21 said:
@tamara4: in which area do you inject the insulin of breakfast?

In the arm always less the slow one that I put in the gluteus

Try putting it in the abdomen.In that area insulin is absorbed much faster

Regarding breakfast and after many years of rehearsal and error, the best result has given me is as follows:
I leave home without breakfast if I am at a good level, and I start the activity in the work that normally does not mean to lower the glucose more and after a couple of hours I make a normal breakfast that would upload a lot at home, I do not wait time after clickingAnd I continue with the activity of work ... the excellent results. I know it is not easy to leave without breakfast but it has worked.