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Cure there is no: absolute solution, flatly yes

  
DiabetesForo
10/12/2024 11:42 a.m.

Hello everyone, I debuted with Lada in 2010 with long honeymoon until well in 2013 where peptide C indicated end of reserve.Those two years were only metformin and daily sport, thinning 15 kg.
Then, to summarize, bad control from insulinotherapy, very bad years with trimesters of 10 in A1C and the last 6 years between 6.5 and 7, but some between 6.1 or so.
Well, I tell you, after starting with certain symptoms of neuropathy and headaches and after having tried strict control from diets to the use of carbs and insulin, I decided to look for some path that could be successful, I attest that I have given with it,It is the famous low diet in hydrates+low insulin+exercise:
- I'm in 4.9 glyd
- Just hypos and very relative, never less than 65
- Time in rank 98%, which for all purposes is like 100%
- Glucose variability index less than 18%
- I have reversed the symptoms of neuropathy and headaches
- I had a tendosovitis (glycation) problem in the meñique of Uns hand that is referring
- I notic

What demands this and some considerations:
-Put permanent diet, forget about alcohol, perhaps from coffee (that is my decision for founded reasons) of hydrates (no more than 70 gr/ day) of the HC Short chain
- Daily and anaerobic aerobic exercise 3 times a week
- Light ketosis (between 0.6 and 2 mmol/l) and hunger sensation often especially to the PPIO, not to confuse it with ketoacidosis PF as it happens to so much health professional ...
- Strict glycemic control
It is worth trying, with the diet to use it is impossible to lower 5 without hypos, even with a pump.
Consider that even with 120 average they end up having complications: this is due to the variability index and time in range, among other reasons.

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pinkman
10/20/2024 9:34 a.m.

Hello everyone
Tell you that in the last A1C 4.7% has come out which already seems spectacular and I would never have imagined that it could be achieved.
Hypoglycemia have only had 4 in the last month, 2 of 68 and two of 66 and 67, which I have not learned if it is not for the sensor.
As I said in my previous post this demands sacrifice but there comes a time that you get used to.
100% control this is possible, I do not understand how it is not given more diffusion and pedagogy at diets under car/low insulin.
Let's go for 4.5% with zero hypos that will be the assimotic grail to pursue !!!
Thank you all and an affectionate greeting

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JuanSolo
10/20/2024 10:20 a.m.

pinkman said:
hello everyone, I debuted with lada in 2010 with long honeymoon until well into 2013 where peptide C indicated end of reserve.Those two years were only metformin and daily sport, thinning 15 kg.
Then, to summarize, bad control from insulinotherapy, very bad years with trimesters of 10 in A1C and the last 6 years between 6.5 and 7, but some between 6.1 or so.
Well, I tell you, after starting with certain symptoms of neuropathy and headaches and after having tried strict control from diets to the use of carbs and insulin, I decided to look for some path that could be successful, I attest that I have given with it,It is the famous low diet in hydrates+low insulin+exercise:
- I'm in 4.9 glyd
- Just hypos and very relative, never less than 65
- Time in rank 98%, which for all purposes is like 100%
- Glucose variability index less than 18%
- I have reversed the symptoms of neuropathy and headaches
- I had a tendosovitis (glycation) problem in the meñique of Uns hand that is referring
- I notic

What demands this and some considerations:
-Put permanent diet, forget about alcohol, perhaps from coffee (that is my decision for founded reasons) of hydrates (no more than 70 gr/ day) of the HC Short chain
- Daily and anaerobic aerobic exercise 3 times a week
- Light ketosis (between 0.6 and 2 mmol/l) and hunger sensation often especially to the PPIO, not to confuse it with ketoacidosis PF as it happens to so much health professional ...
- Strict glycemic control
It is worth trying, with the diet to use it is impossible to lower 5 without hypos, even with a pump.
Consider that even with 120 average they end up having complications: this is due to the variability index and time in range, among other reasons.

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The data is incredible.We are talking about glucose of a non -diabetic.
I have doubts about the low diet in hydrates 70 gr/ day is very little.This forces the body to use more proteins and fats (hence mild ketosis).It is assumed that half of the calories that a diabetic takes should be HC.I worry that imbalance in the diet.A high protein diet is harmful to the kidneys.Or that's what has always been said.
Do you know if there are studies about it?
Congratulations on the results.
I fight to go to 6.0 hemoglobin.

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joelsa
10/20/2024 12:38 p.m.

juance said:
pinkman said:
hello to all, I debuted with lada in 2010 with long honeymoon until well into 2013 where peptide C indicatedbooking.Those two years were only metformin and daily sport, thinning 15 kg.
Then, to summarize, bad control from insulinotherapy, very bad years with trimesters of 10 in A1C and the last 6 years between 6.5 and 7, but some between 6.1 or so.
Well, I tell you, after starting with certain symptoms of neuropathy and headaches and after having tried strict control from diets to the use of carbs and insulin, I decided to look for some path that could be successful, I attest that I have given with it,It is the famous low diet in hydrates+low insulin+exercise:
- I'm in 4.9 glyd
- Just hypos and very relative, never less than 65
- Time in rank 98%, which for all purposes is like 100%
- Glucose variability index less than 18%
- I have reversed the symptoms of neuropathy and headaches
- I had a tendosovitis (glycation) problem in the meñique of Uns hand that is referring
- I notic

What demands this and some considerations:
-Put permanent diet, forget about alcohol, perhaps from coffee (that is my decision for founded reasons) of hydrates (no more than 70 gr/ day) of the HC Short chain
- Daily and anaerobic aerobic exercise 3 times a week
- Light ketosis (between 0.6 and 2 mmol/l) and hunger sensation often especially to the PPIO, not to confuse it with ketoacidosis PF as it happens to so much health professional ...
- Strict glycemic control
It is worth trying, with the diet to use it is impossible to lower 5 without hypos, even with a pump.
Consider that even with 120 average they end up having complications: this is due to the variability index and time in range, among other reasons.

Hello,

With the supporters that I have been able to consult and receive indications to carry a low diet in hydrates (between 6 and 12HC), I have always allowed me to be in rank and obtain healthy nutritional values ​​every 3 months.

I do not know how to refer to the studies that support it, but I think they will exist and as Pinkman says this diet is very positive, in my case along with sport.

Maybe someone else can give us info, greetings.

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pinkman
10/20/2024 1:01 p.m.

Hi Juan, thank you very much.

Your question is very interesting, we have always ran to say that protein with low hydrate affects the kidneys.I tell you what I get to know:
- It is a low hydrates diet and low insulin but this does not imply that it is high in protein, it is not a Keto diet or carnivorous or anything like that.The proportion of proteins with respect to HV is higher but in amount it can be equal to before if not less
- There is much more fiber
- Caloria intake is lower (being thin is forced with low fat level and acceptable muscle level)
- When the kidneys are affected and no longer filter albumin then the protein intake must be reduced
- In the event that the kidneys are fine and glucose levels are correct (such as diabetic or non -diabetic) the kidneys are not affected by the protein, even higher, which should not be the case in absolute terms
- What damages renal glomeruli is the high level of blood glucose.
- High glucose also as you know rises blood pressure, which deteriorates the kidneys
- I do not know any case, I would like to know of some, know very valuable information, of some diabetic or non -diabetic that with a low diet in HC and an A1C <5.7% has had kidney problems
- Of the studies, there are many, and none determines the relationship between renal failure under conditions of high protein with normal glucose levels.
- By the way cetosis is light and not permanent, sometimes there is no ketosis, or you can spend a lot of time with values ​​below 0.6 mmol/l of blood ketone bodies, which is what our ancestors 100,000 years ago had when whenHC/protein intakes between hunters-gatherers varied between hungry or shortage periods.
- In any case it is the creatinine/microalbuminuria ratio and creatinine that indicates the ability to filter and the health of a kidney, I return to the question above, I am still looking for a patient with this diet who has seen those indices affected
- At the time I know several cases of octogenarian patients with DM type 1 who carry with this diet between 40 and 50 years that their kidneys have not been affected.
- It seems that this confusion comes from a study conducted in rats in 1984, and that then the American ada disseminated moving that for diabetes the protein intake was fatal for the kidney, then they have been miserable over time.
- This diet is prescribed by thirst, you can find articles of it in its great magazine, TB by Santiago Murillo that defends it, you can see its videos on YouTube.

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pinkman
10/20/2024 5:35 p.m.

Serafín Murillo no Santiago Murillo

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