Please help, this is very difficult.

It is not a false hope, it can always be improved.
And there are many documented cases of type 2 diabetes people who after years have been left and only take oral medications, there is % of the pancreas that can be "recovered"
He has been diagnosed for a short time and that is a point in his favor.
I do not give him a false hope, I just want to know that there are more options than the officer but that they require work.
In his hand he is if he wants to inform himself and try.
I always say it, I started with fast, slow and metformin insulin and today I do nothing and it is not thanks to my endocrine, which hallucinate in colors.The same can not do it but at least they know you can try.

He also wanted to say, he tries and cannot take off the slow one, but with the acquired habits he stays there and does not have to go quickly over the years.
That whenever it is a well -diagnosed DM2 and not a strain that happens as DM2 thanks to our great professionals.

I do not know if in your case they tested the peptide c.If this was not the way it was an insulin guide mistake.
What is clear is that to guide insulin or not, it should always be done, since it is not the same as the pancreas works or not.
I went through a header who said that being type 2 I did not need insulin (without peptide proof) and subsequent analytical endocrine that when seeing my peptide almost zero confirmed what I thought, that I depend on theinsulin.False hope on the part of my header.
Until the endo saw me 3 months in which I changed habits, eat few hydrates, a lotObviously I needed it.
That is why I say it is as easy as knowing if a pancreas works or not before paying treatment.
What does not mean that having good habits is always good, because even with external insulin makes it much easier to control diabetes.

They did everything, peptide C but the good one that takes you 2 times, on an empty stomach and after 10min to inject glucagon, they also made antibodies, and they also usually make me insulin in fasting serum to calculate homa.
12% now have 5.2%
I see that it is someone new, who does not have much idea and that it seems that he needs help so I ask him to inform and give him a couple of names to start and try, he can achieve it or not but at least inside someyears that do not think "Ayyy if someone would have told me before"
There is always a margin of improvement, more years of evolution less margin.

otabol said:
They did everything, peptide c but the good one who takes you 2 times, on an empty stomach and after 10min of injecting glucagon, I also made antibodies, and I alsoThey usually make an insulin in fasting serum to calculate home.
12% now have 5.2%
I see that it is someone new, who does not have much idea and that it seems that he needs help so I ask him to inform and give him a couple of names to start and try, he can achieve it or not but at least inside someyears that do not think "Ayyy if someone would have told me before"
There is always a margin of improvement, more years of evolution less margin.

Ok, but out of curiosity, what did you give you?(The one that according to my analytics must walk between 0.8 and 4.2 ...), on an empty stomach

Isabelbota said:

otabol said:
They made me everything, peptide c but the good that they take you 2 times, on an empty stomach and after10min injecting glucagon, they also made antibodies, and they also usually make me insulin in fasting to calculate homa.
12% now have 5.2%
I see that it is someone new, who does not have much idea and that it seems that he needs help so I ask him to inform and give him a couple of names to start and try, he can achieve it or not but at least inside someyears that do not think "Ayyy if someone would have told me before"
There is always a margin of improvement, more years of evolution less margin.

Ok, but out of curiosity, what did you give you?(The one that according to my analytics must walk between 0.8 and 4.2 ...), on an empty
Very tall, now I don't know the data, I would have to look for it.
If I remember that in the hospital in the emergency room I gave me above 3.
The test a few months later I think it was 1 with something and then 3.8 or something, but that day I woke up in less than 80 on an empty stomach, (I put a lot of cane to the remission)
4.2 On an empty stomach C to me seems a lot.

Of course, now I understand.If you stop is that there is pancreatic functioning but a lot of insulin resistance (higher the peptide, more insulin is being segregated).Segrega insulin but does not effect.Resistance is eliminated, the problem is eliminated.
But in cases like mine, with C peptide below 0.5, which indicates that the pancreas does not secrete insulin, little must be done.
I don't understand with high peptide how insulin guided you ...

otabol said:
is not a false hope, it can always be improved.
And there are many documented cases of type 2 diabetes people who after years have been left and only take oral medications, there is % of the pancreas that can be "recovered"
He has been diagnosed for a short time and that is a point in his favor.
I do not give him a false hope, I just want to know that there are more options than the officer but that they require work.
In his hand he is if he wants to inform himself and try.
I always say it, I started with fast, slow and metformin insulin and today I do nothing and it is not thanks to my endocrine, which hallucinate in colors.The same can not do it but at least they know you can try.

Say that @otabol, hope is good with long -term objectives, keeps us active and it is clear that this disease requires both physical and mental effort.You have to go for a walk, exercise, think about what, how and when we feed, monitor glucose levels, mood, learn to get our own conclusions, etc.That hope puts us in a good spiral of activity and good habits.

The expectations often bother everything but want to improve in something like DM2 when I read in the forum to colleagues to exercise and take care have improved I do not seem bad at all.If we have no life, it is not worth it.

Much mood @marisa123: Smile:

marisa123 said:
Hello everyone again, I update my status with good news (for which you are interested).
I am finally injected day by day, I am overdue, I am very happy because after several weeks I have been able to with this and I am very proud of myself.
I tried to inject myself with Ticketlex as you suggested but I did not notice a big difference and it gave me insecurity not to see the needle to stick in case I punctured me badthat I am not finally using it and I am clicking like this to `` Storch dry '' Jaja.
I hurt me hurts, in fact there are times that it bites a lot, but it is such a bearable discomfort that I have already learned to live with it.
I want to thank all the members of this forum that have contributed something on this issue to encourage me, and also to all who open other issues about diabetes because you do not imagine the things that I am learning from all of you since I read you.I feel less alone, less misunderstood.
I still have a lot of doubts that I will ask in other threads not to saturate this.
Thank you all for your councils.

congratulations!You must be proud of yourself!congratulations!.Of course you could!

I do not inject insulin, but I am in a saxenda treatment that uses the same needles and I must tell you that in 60 injections (2 months) I only feel 2 ... the others is seriously as if I had not injected anything.I imagine that with practice you will have better idea of ​​the best places to inject and best methods

By the way, what glycosilada do you have to be sent insulin?

In my experience, with pure metformin no diabetes 2 is controlled after a while, there are other oral medications advanced today such as invokana or garden ... Before jumping to insulin ... are also injected as oxempic (notThey are insulin) but they work incredible, I know a couple of friends with DB2 that goes wonderfully with these medications ... Of course everyone is a world, but wanted to share it

From what I have been able to learn, in the end type2 diabetes with resistance and pancreatic reserve is based on 3 pillars.
Diet - Medication - Exercise.In its fair measure the three your life will be bearable.
If you squeeze more in one you can download the others.
Now, it is worth the huge sacrifice of exercising every day very intense to simply not take the medication?In my view no.
We have to live in the most normal way possible and not direct your life to the slavery of the Gym for saying I do not take metformin and I am in 100 when I get up.In addition the day you leave it you will return to the start box.
Each one who does what he wants, but those "counselors" do business with something that works if, with a lot of effort (yours) and forever, but ... each who values ​​that he wants in life.

joyki said:
so I have been able to learn, in the end type2 diabetes with resistance and pancreatic reserve is based on 3 pillars.
Diet - Medication - Exercise.In its fair measure the three your life will be bearable.
If you squeeze more in one you can download the others.
Now, it is worth the huge sacrifice of exercising every day very intense to simply not take the medication?In my view no.
We have to live in the most normal way possible and not direct your life to the slavery of the Gym for saying I do not take metformin and I am in 100 when I get up.In addition the day you leave it you will return to the start box.
Each one who does what he wants, but those "counselors" do business with something that works if, with a lot of effort (yours) and forever, but ... each who values ​​that he wants in life.

Very good, it's a way of seeing it ...
But I will tell you that the pills treat a symptom, which is high glucose do not dealDegradation pancreas are controlled with medication, neuropathy, cardiobascular risk, kidneys, etc.
Sacrifice .... Yes, I made a great sacrifice, more or less a year of sacrifice, after a life doing it badly not seemed to me much, now I do not diet, I do not tell calories just try to do the 3x1 and exercise....... Well, if I can go 2 or 3 times a week to do some strength to the gym I am happy, now between Christmas and that I have spent Covid have been 4 weeks without going.
Today Christmas Eve, excesses everywhere, 2h after dinner 101 of glucose, was the sacrifice worth for a year?In my case yes.
For a normal life I think you needed 40 % of the pancreas, and anyway the pancreas can recover a % in DM2.
Each person is a world, there are no 2 equal bodies and 2 equal thoughts.
I express here my personal experience and my opinion in case I encourage someone to try.
Merry Christmas to all !!!!

joyki said:
so I have been able to learn, in the end type2 diabetes with resistance and pancreatic reserve is based on 3 pillars.
Diet - Medication - Exercise.In its fair measure the three your life will be bearable.
If you squeeze more in one you can download the others.
Now, it is worth the huge sacrifice of exercising every day very intense to simply not take the medication?In my view no.
We have to live in the most normal way possible and not direct your life to the slavery of the Gym for saying I do not take metformin and I am in 100 when I get up.In addition the day you leave it you will return to the start box.
Each one who does what he wants, but those "counselors" do business with something that works if, with a lot of effort (yours) and forever, but ... each who values ​​that he wants in life.

I agree.It is one thing to balance food, exercise and medicines but it is not the same to do moderate exercise 3 or 4 times a week and that medicine "helps" that 1 intense hour, every day ... some like it, for othersIt is slavery ... I think you have to look for the right balance, the most convenient for each ...