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Differences between blood test and freestyle sensor

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Very good to all.
I am quite pissed off and demoralized for the care of my doctor "Specialist Endocrinology".
I've been using the freestyle sensor for a few years and this is my experience in recent months ...

Results:
By sensor 86 - 45 blood
By sensor 59 - 37 blood
By sensor 75 - 54 blood
By sensor 45 - the blood

The blood difference is always +20 down.

These results are daily.The doctor only reviews the graph that gives the sensor results and therefore diagnostic: "Great glymatical control with some mild hypoglycemia" "is recommended balanced diet and exercise"

The reality is:
& GT;A huge amount of hypoglycemia daily (up to 52 descents in a week).
& GT; Sudden Blood Sugar Changes (250 to 50 in less than 1 hour).
& GT; Very low insulin dose (2-4-2 quickly and 10 slowly).

I have explained the same thing to him and in front of him I have shown it ... I have done the sensor test (127) and then by blood (86) .... 41 points of difference.

It does not give me any guidelines to follow and everything summarizes with good sugar control since I am in an average of 118 ... of course!I already understand it .... 216 Hyperglycemia + 20 hypoblucemia = 236 /2 = ((118)) I'm a motherfucker !!

Are anyone having similar problems with sensors?

Thank you!

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10/26/2023 3:18 p.m.
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You have such strict control of your glycemic values ​​and with those hypos with forgiveness, you are not able to lower the insulin doses so as not to have those descents?I don't understand ....

The sensor is not as precise as we sell it to us and we know that we use it ... but your focus should not be in the sensor.

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10/26/2023 4:08 p.m.
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hfmbbcx said:
very good to all.
I am quite pissed off and demoralized for the care of my doctor "Specialist Endocrinology".
I've been using the freestyle sensor for a few years and this is my experience in recent months ...

Results:
By sensor 86 - 45 blood
By sensor 59 - 37 blood
By sensor 75 - 54 blood
By sensor 45 - the blood

The blood difference is always +20 down.

These results are daily.The doctor only reviews the graph that gives the sensor results and therefore diagnostic: "Great glymatical control with some mild hypoglycemia" "is recommended balanced diet and exercise"

The reality is:
& GT;A huge amount of hypoglycemia daily (up to 52 descents in a week).
& GT; Sudden Blood Sugar Changes (250 to 50 in less than 1 hour).
& GT; Very low insulin dose (2-4-2 quickly and 10 slowly).

I have explained the same thing to him and in front of him I have shown it ... I have done the sensor test (127) and then by blood (86) .... 41 points of difference.

It does not give me any guidelines to follow and everything summarizes with good sugar control since I am in an average of 118 ... of course!I already understand it .... 216 Hyperglycemia + 20 hypoblucemia = 236 /2 = ((118)) I'm a motherfucker !!

Are anyone having similar problems with sensors?

Good afternoon, install Diabox and calibrate it with glucometer data.
Forget about the freeLink app.Scan every 8 hours so that it does not bother.
When you go to the doctor you show Diabox data.
Once you have it calibrated you can trust the sensor.
According to the app I have had more than 50 hypoglycemia this month.99.9% are a lie.I do not pay attention to the ABBOTT app and use it because the data to the endocrine arrives, but once there I show you the other Diabox data and it is satisfied.

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10/26/2023 4:14 p.m.
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sandman said:
hfmbbcx said:
very good to all.
I am quite pissed off and demoralized for the care of my doctor "Specialist Endocrinology".
I've been using the freestyle sensor for a few years and this is my experience in recent months ...

Results:
By sensor 86 - 45 blood
By sensor 59 - 37 blood
By sensor 75 - 54 blood
By sensor 45 - the blood

The blood difference is always +20 down.

These results are daily.The doctor only reviews the graph that gives the sensor results and therefore diagnostic: "Great glymatical control with some mild hypoglycemia" "is recommended balanced diet and exercise"

The reality is:
& GT;A huge amount of hypoglycemia daily (up to 52 descents in a week).
& GT; Sudden Blood Sugar Changes (250 to 50 in less than 1 hour).
& GT; Very low insulin dose (2-4-2 quickly and 10 slowly).

I have explained the same thing to him and in front of him I have shown it ... I have done the sensor test (127) and then by blood (86) .... 41 points of difference.

It does not give me any guidelines to follow and everything summarizes with good sugar control since I am in an average of 118 ... of course!I already understand it .... 216 Hyperglycemia + 20 hypoblucemia = 236 /2 = ((118)) I'm a motherfucker !!

Are anyone having similar problems with sensors?

Good afternoon, install Diabox and calibrate it with glucometer data.
Forget about the freeLink app.Scan every 8 hours so that it does not bother.
When you go to the doctor you show Diabox data.
Once you have it calibrated you can trust the sensor.
According to the app I have had more than 50 hypoglycemia this month.99.9% are a lie.I do not pay attention to the ABBOTT app and use it because the data to the endocrine arrives, but once there I show you the other Diabox data and it is satisfied.

Thanks Sandman
I have never started a new sensor with the mobile I have always used the same strokes.
The thing is that it always had a linear control with very slight peaks so it barely varied the cutaneous result with that of blood (from 10 to 15 points of difference)
Regarding erroneous hypoglycemia, it is not the case, rather the opposite, I have the symptoms (sweat, tremor, disorientation, tongue in the tongue and lips, headache and dizziness, etc., that I am going to tell you) and I do theTry the device.This marks me, 86 for example, which is weird and I take the test with a strip, which marks me 45 ...
As I said above I have very strong drops and the capillary reading I think is 15 minutes of backward with the blood.

I will try to use the mobile with the app that you recommend.Thanks again

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10/26/2023 5:22 p.m.
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If you have so many descents, shouldn't you lower insulin doses?

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10/26/2023 5:54 p.m.
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anaisabel said:
If you have so many desmies you should not lower insulin doses?

Usually 2-4-2 fast and 10 slow.Playing with half units.
Even so, I am 3 or 4 days with many casualties, some of up to 3 or 4 hours in a row where I finish by clicking on me glucagon to overcome.
And after a few days I am stable and then high ...
It is a desperate situation and as I said above I do not have a doctor who gives me guidelines to improve the situation.

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10/26/2023 6:09 p.m.
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With one or two cans of Coca Cola do not go back?

The time I see that someone is downturn, that is very bad.

And also the time I see someone click the glucacon.

P.D: I ended up taking away my freestyle because it gave me too many wrong values, my control worsened and my mental health above all.

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10/26/2023 6:13 p.m.

En 1922 descubrieron la insulina, en 1930 la insulina lenta. ¿Que c*** han hecho desde entonces?

  

sherpa41 said:
With one or two cans of coca cola do not go back?

The time I see that someone is downturn, that is very bad.

And also the time I see someone click the glucacon.

P.D: I ended up taking away the freestyle because it gave me too many wrong values, my control worsened and above all mental health.

Thanks Sherpa ...
The thing is that I have 60 .... I take 1 juice and several cookies.
15 min later 75 ... something reasonable.
15 min later 52 ... I will ingerrer
15 min later 77 ...
And 15 later 27 ... when I have been fighting for a while to overcome and for despair not being able to eat anymore, it is my wife who puts the glucagon.

I forgot to say that it may have a digestive problem that makes food absorption not correct in some occasions.Perhaps for this reason, a few days there is the most stable control, others high although usually low.

Thank you all for your answers.This is helping me to release my complaints.

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10/26/2023 6:42 p.m.
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Something similar happened to me when I took juice for hypos.There was no way to overcome a strong downturn and repeated and repeated.Or simply did not go up.Until I got fed up and swept away something sweet thing I found.

But since I went to Cocacola.I know how much I have to take to get to 110 and avoid falling.Or bounce.

If the downturn is strong a 37gr can, but medium.

And if the downturn is soft a Aquarius or Fanta that carries 15gr of sugar.

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10/26/2023 7:24 p.m.

En 1922 descubrieron la insulina, en 1930 la insulina lenta. ¿Que c*** han hecho desde entonces?

  

@HFMBBCX: You have to get off the fast if you have the descents at the time or at 2 hours after eating.
If you get up with good glycems, don't touch the slow one.
My endocrine has told me that at most you can have 2 hypos a week.You have to avoid so many hypos because you are going to "melt" the brain.
I would change doctor in your place

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10/26/2023 7:42 p.m.

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sherpa41 said:
something similar happened to me when I took juice for the hypos.There was no way to overcome a strong downturn and repeated and repeated.Or simply did not go up.Until I got fed up and swept away something sweet thing I found.

But since I went to Cocacola.I know how much I have to take to get to 110 and avoid falling.Or bounce.

If the downturn is strong a 37gr can, but medium.

And if the downturn is soft a Aquarius or Fanta that carries 15gr of sugar.

I will try it ... a thousand thanks friend

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10/26/2023 8:01 p.m.
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You have a basal insulin, they give you the dowers because you are on honeymoon and insulin is too much.Lower to 8 and test, you should be between meals between 90-100;And so on until you have hypoglycemia.That same happened in the first months after the debut.

I did analytics on Tuesday:
Diabox: 118mg/dl
LABORATORY ANALYTICS 115MG/DL (with the consequent *)
LibreLink: 115 approx, as I see the curve.
Freestyle reader: 125mg/dl

This sensor is going relatively well.But I am clear, an application without calibration does not work.

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10/26/2023 8:46 p.m.

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@HFMBBCX
I do not understand one thing.You say that fast 2-4-2 ...
Don't click on what you eat?Because in my case breakfast is usually the same, but up there depending on whether I am higher or lower when breakfast.
And already food and dinner depends totally on what eate.
It is also important when to click.At breakfast a while before, but at food or dinner I sulked me before insured hypoglycemia, because it takes me a lot to raise the food.And as coma fats sometimes up to 4/6 hours after eating.
But the first thing is, as they tell you, that you get less fast because you obviously have plenty.Nothing happens if you are a little high until you find the ideal adjustment.You can always correct yourself a posteriori but now what you have to solve is the problem of hypos.
If before you it may be what you say, any digestion problem, but you will have to see how to adapt.
Regarding the sensor, because it will have left you bad but in general they measure me well, with delay, but knowing it is to calculate.

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10/26/2023 10:43 p.m.

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HG diciembre 2020: 15.9. Última HG: julio 2024 5.8
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It is a pity about the endocrine (with exceptions).They do not look up from the analysis, they care zero as the person in front of them.The patient for them is a set of values: both of hemoglobin, both glucose, both LDL, both creatine, etc.With that they guide the treatments.With that nothing more;They do not ask you what you eat and when, if you exercise, if you sleep well, they hardly look you in the eye.
I say this because it is not normal for your doctor to agree with what the sensor indicates when you are telling him another movie, which falls on hiccum every day and on Sundays twice ...
Medical care is being dehumanized.We are chronic sick, we are going to visit the endocrine twice a year the rest of our life and attention cannot be more depersonalized, what a shame.

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10/27/2023 11:16 a.m.

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@ENSALADA are not all ... but all the reason with some ...
And in the end everything is reduced in figures, which I understand ... because the better, the more likely to go well and have more long -term health ...
The other day they told me that I had the high LDL.I asked how much and I really were within the range of "normal" people (not diabetic. "Now it turnsI understand, it is health, but we are not robots either.

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10/27/2023 12:13 p.m.

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Díabética desde los 4 años. Ahora tengo 38.
Hbg cambiante.

  

@Silviagrz: With the issue of cholesterol it turns out that long -evolution type 1 diabetics are high -risk patients when having cardiovascular problems.They demand the same cholesterol values ​​as a person who has already had a heart attack or an stroke.
I would not be surprised if we are candidates for the new anti -cholesterol injections that have come out this week

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Ricki21
10/27/2023 1:42 p.m.

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@Ricki21 Yes, yes, I know ... but sometimes we are demanded values ​​...
I also thought about us when I saw the injections ... surely fall.If we don't deprive ourselves of anything!

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SilviaGRZ
10/27/2023 1:50 p.m.

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Díabética desde los 4 años. Ahora tengo 38.
Hbg cambiante.

  

silviagrz said:
@ricki21 yes, yes, I know ... but sometimes we demand values ​​...
I also thought about us when I saw the injections ... surely fall.If we don't deprive ourselves of anything!

Well, I do not take statins, I do not have the high CT, I have it over 170, and the normal LDL but not to the range of less than 80, but I will not take them by primary prevention PQ among other things produce insulin resistance, andI already needed what I need.

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10/27/2023 4:43 p.m.
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Well, I have just given the beautiful figure of 240 cholesterol.: D

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10/27/2023 6:31 p.m.

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ruthbia said:
because they just given me the beautiful figure of 240 cholesterol.: D

But you have the super tall HDL and very low triglycerides, that is very good, the total is not seen so much.There are also a series of HDL cholesterol quotients on the LDL and many others that are most valued.
The small and dense LDL particles are atherogenic, the big and spongy no, so there would be much to talk about it.

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