It is that I think that by private one understands an insurance of € 100 per year or even € 1000 per year, the private is to belong to insurance such as the SS and you choose medical when you want and analysis and you have a talonario for recipes and notThere is waiting for you to choose, what @algameca says, and I think you pay a pasture or can only choose officials and some companies, example, we had Asisa in Madrid and worked wonderfully, you gave a tal (something that justifies) to theDoctor every time you went to charge their service, they are doctors who even work for safer ,,
@Andrespmat, in the urgencies for the private, in the best hospital in MUFACE, they do not have specialists, if you are going to undone, and in urgent births sometimes there is the gynecologist ... My cousin had his child alone in the room withThe only help of the husband ..., years ago, although still now for complicated emergencies they send you to the public .. But, well, if we share between private and public, better.
Hija de 35 años , diabética desde los 5. Glico: normalmente de 6 , pero 6,7 la última ( 6,2 marcaba el Free) Fiasp: 4- 4- 3 Toujeo: 20
Andrespmat said: is that I think that by private one understands an insurance of € € a year or even € 1000 a year, the private one is belonging to insurance such as the SS and you choose medicalWhen you want and analysis and you have a recipe carrier and there is no expected to choose specialist, what @algameca says, and I think you pay a pasture or can only choose officials and some companies, example, we had Asisa in Madrid and workedWonderful, you gave a heel (something that justifies) to the doctor every time you went to charge his service, they are doctors who even work for safer,
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It is indeed the SS.Of the officials, you can choose to even go to SS directly or Adeslas, Asisas or DKV and answering slAdeslas, another thing MUFACE does not have clinics, MuFace is the mutual that manages the insurance of the officials at the same time the one who hires the private insurance of the officials, it is to clarify things, naturally I have no interest is to interact in the forum
@Algameca, already, I know that MuFace is the mutual, I meant in the best private hospital that can be achieved by MuFace .. at least here in my city ..
in force92 said: MuFace bone can you choose adeslas, dkv or asisa?Do you know which one is better or is the 3 more or less equal?
Find in your city that clinics has one or the other, so you choose the one that seems best, for example in Madrid Barcelona for me the best is Adeslas, in other cities it would be necessary to look, I have been destined there and I know the best clinics,That does not mean that the other companies have them bad, but I like them more in the city that I am now is smaller, in Andalusia, I am also in Adeslas, I liked it more, what I said investigates in your city that clinicsThey have very important too, find out about the medical picture they have
I do not know about qualified personnel, if sometimes the same professional works for private too !! I think that the public works to the good of God, I know that this will raise ampoules, but it is so, in what nobody sends each one does what they want and sometimes we defend something that we do not understand, as what to privatize is that youYou are left without SS, not, to privatize is that someone manages it to remove performance and sometimes put order, it is like the factories that were from the government, as they are all of theWithout offending
In Madrid there are hospitals and centers "Multimarca", take all companies. Then each brand, specifically Sanitas and Adeslas, have their own hospitals and medical centers. The private ones is fast for second opinions and evidence, but then you end up in the public as it is. Last year Sanitas Aravaca did not want to biopsy the breast cancer for being diabetic, the SS, in my case it was the Jiménez Díaz Foundation (Public-Private Agreement), I bipsió and Opero in 1 month.They tested up to night, they make resonances until 2:00 in the morning to eliminate waiting. In small cities, companies have more limited resources.There are fewer professionals, my experience has been in Toledo where I lived many years, and in Soria, my grandparents were from Asisa for the Civil Guard.
@Andréspmat, privatization is a business for those who take it. In a public hospital no one wukens, there is no time. Look to see who makes you a renal transplant. In the private they would never do it to you, unless you have economic power to pay it.
Hija de 35 años , diabética desde los 5. Glico: normalmente de 6 , pero 6,7 la última ( 6,2 marcaba el Free) Fiasp: 4- 4- 3 Toujeo: 20
Andrespmat said: I don't know about qualified personnel, if sometimes the same professional works for private too !! I think that the public works to the good of God, I know that this will raise ampoules, but it is so, in what nobody sends each one does what they want and sometimes we defend something that we do not understand, as what to privatize is that youYou are left without SS, not, to privatize is that someone manages it to remove performance and sometimes put order, it is like the factories that were from the government, as they are all of theWithout offending
Of course there are professionals who work in both sites but the media and nursing that accompany them are not the same, and the form of Accessing professionals either, and most specialists are not in a presence in a private guard, at most they are located and not all, there are times to move to the PTES to a hospital of the SS PQ or there is noSpecialist available a weekend or holiday, or do not do the test that is, when you have to run, where does it go?, not a private. I would not take me in a private one, I am not interested, I spend a lot, and there are treatments that I put on and I have put on € 1500, I simply could not be for the SS, that is so and there is noleaf turn.
I don't know what we are talking about, I just tell you that I have a relative who has sarcoidosis and I only tell you that if he does not get to be in DKV for being an official, today he would be dead, and they paid him and chose the hospital he wanted, he came toVigo because he wanted, but he could go to Madrid, they pay you everything the same, only that they had to retire with 42 years, I deduce that you know what illness I talk to you, and it is still in treatment and how you will not be worth the treatment and displacement and displacement and displacementThat he lives 100 km from here and I no longer say anything else, since when I say something the bread goes up 🤣🤣🤣🤣 there is no time that it does not intervene that it does not lead brown, very good to all and do and go to the doctor whoYou want, but say the best for you without belittling others, that you want to applause you, that for you it is better for you, that is how phenomenal Diabox, but call Diabox that he does a sensor insteadTo use the free, I see that you fail a lot, but I do not see anyone say that you will complain to the one who put a bad version
Of course, it is a business, I do not work for free and health is also a business, you think that the almost € 800 per month that the government is paid by the government and it is not all for health, I never sawThat in the private one let anyone die, it is more there are people who go to the United States paying for something will be !!And maybe vague is not the word, but a little control if it is necessary in public
ruthbia said: in Madrid there are hospitals and centers "multi -bracket", take all companies. Then each brand, specifically Sanitas and Adeslas, have their own hospitals and medical centers. The private ones is fast for second opinions and evidence, but then you end up in the public as it is. Last year Sanitas Aravaca did not want to biopsy the breast cancer for being diabetic, the SS, in my case it was the Jiménez Díaz Foundation (Public-Private Agreement), I bipsió and Opero in 1 month.They tested up to night, they make resonances until 2:00 in the morning to eliminate waiting. In small cities, companies have more limited resources.There are fewer professionals, my experience has been in Toledo where I lived many years, and in Soria, my grandparents were from Asisa for the Civil Guard.
Fundacion Jimenez Diaz, a totally private center, arranged by the public, of the Quiron Group, of the best hospitals in Madrid or is totally private, although the community government has it concerted, almost all private ones have it, if not all.In any case, one thing is the private and another is to belong to the Mutua MUFACE, this mutual is governmental or the government manages for public officials just like the Civil Guard has Isfas that is another government mutual that manages Civil Guard andMilitary, these can also be welcomed to private ones, naturally that each official depending on the site you reside will have to look at more interests, that is the little advantage that you can go to private or the SS.In any case, most officials are accepted by private ones, for something it will be
@Algameca, they host private because they have quick evidence and direct specialists, although not so much, the truth .. quotes are already being delayed in private. But when you have to treat something serious, the best means are public. Public health is the biggest treasure we have in Spain.I hope it lasts a long time.
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The officials who are thinking of moving to Social Security would tell them not to do any procedure since the current Minister of Health will soon go to Social Security. I belong to this group and as a company, as I can choose, I have Adeslas and I am delighted.For the theme of diabetes I go to an internist because it gives me a lot of confidence and apart from that every year I go to an endocrine to contrast.The material only needles feathers for slow insulin, strips, lancetas and devices Metters are given by Adeslas without any problem I had some urgent income in social security, not by diabetes, and both the treatment and treatment was good, the treatment was expensive over 20,000 euros that to clarify some paid Adeslas. In short, that for my part it is not even going through my head to the SS, I am delighted as I am, and I think that all citizens should be able to choose. Greetings and happy parties to all
@semanu, so that all citizens could choose, it would have to be all public ... In other countries, where they have to pay medical insurance, it depends on the fee provided to have access to one or another health.
Spain is classified among the five countries with the best health in the world.
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regina said: @week, so that all citizens could choose, it would have to be all public ... In other countries, where they have to pay medical insurance, it depends on the fee provided to have access to one or another health.
Spain is classified among the five countries with the best health in the world.
Just tell you that mufface, isfas etc.They are part of the SNS exactly the same as social security. I also remind you that within Spain there are autonomies that are richer and have a better system than others. I am happy with my mutual and with Adeslas
@semanu, it is not necessary for autonomy to be richer, only to prioritize the budget to health.I live in Asturias, it is not a rich autonomy, but it is one of the communities with more budget for public health, so it works so well. Greetings!
Hija de 35 años , diabética desde los 5. Glico: normalmente de 6 , pero 6,7 la última ( 6,2 marcaba el Free) Fiasp: 4- 4- 3 Toujeo: 20
I combine private and SS, material theme of diabetic, needles, reactive strips, sensors, and then insulin and others it is better street ss, if you are type 1 for me it is better, type 2 private better because you do not enter almost anything by SSBeing type 2, but analytical, ophthalmologist, cardiology and everything that this disease touches I go by private