Keto diet

salad said:
meginer,

I also have that pattern:

* Brutal resistance in the morning.Breakfast at 11, 3 or 3.5 HC with two Boloras de Novorapid, 20 or 30 minutes before and shoot a "Peazo Pico" of 100 points do whatever.Well, except when breakfast at my house on the weekend with an integral bread of truth and more physical activity.
*Then at eating time, as I take less than 3 HC -We Bolus- I go to insured hypoglycemia.
*The days I do yoga I have to snack
*The dinners, either light, of 2 HC maximum (vegetable and egg or breast breast or some cheese) I do not peak, but for the 11 or 12 I come up to 3 am and spend the night through the heights.I usually correct before bedtime and yet passed the night about 150.

It gives me the impression that, if I restrict the hydrates at night, the liver converts what it has on hand in glucose.To betrayal, at the wrong time and with a lot of resistance to the correction with fast.
What do you think of you?

Well, it seems that you are talking about me, just that I do not make so much food, only three and sometimes even breakfast or take something very light, guy a little Greek yogurt and that's it.

meginer said:

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salad said:
salad said:
meginer,

I also have that pattern:

* Brutal resistance in the morning.Breakfast at 11, 3 or 3.5 HC with two Boloras de Novorapid, 20 or 30 minutes before and shoot a "Peazo Pico" of 100 points do whatever.Well, except when breakfast at my house on the weekend with an integral bread of truth and more physical activity.
*Then at eating time, as I take less than 3 HC -We Bolus- I go to insured hypoglycemia.
*The days I do yoga I have to snack
*The dinners, either light, of 2 HC maximum (vegetable and egg or breast breast or some cheese) I do not peak, but for the 11 or 12 I come up to 3 am and spend the night through the heights.I usually correct before bedtime and yet passed the night about 150.

It gives me the impression that, if I restrict the hydrates at night, the liver converts what it has on hand in glucose.To betrayal, at the wrong time and with a lot of resistance to the correction with fast.
What do you think of you?

Isn't that much insulin?There are days that I do not put or quickly, so I tell you, here is another, wanting to have breakfast, lunch, eat, snack and dinner are 5 meals, there are too many variables to take into account.

In my case I do two, full energy.

I make three meals with many few hydrates but I did not correct those night peaks and I do not know what to do, the truth, it gives me the feeling that I have tried everything and nothing seems to work.Restrinjo hydrates to have a flatter curve but if it later turns out that it gives me a horrible peak at night through the proteins that rises and climbs, in the end I do not know if we are in them.If I wake up at dawn and it seems that the rapid yarda a lot to act and even correcting the triple of what would be common, I get up to more than 130 having bedBlockquote>

There are people who prefer to climb three basal and that way to see how you arrive in the morning, you may create more sensitivity with exercise, this goes from fabula, if you go out of protein, it will go, but I arrange itself with the same protein put your insulin and everythingsolved.

What you say is logical, in the morning I will always go up, even without that protein.

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good !!!@Aler and @davidcasinos for allusions.

I started curlying the diet and learning it for myself.Seeing that my basal insulin needs increased and that it also increased insulin resistance was something that I did not understand and that although I asked they did not know how to respond.There was always something that I was doing wrong ...

I am currently supervised by a professional and for now, I am reaching the same results .. that is.Initially my nutritionist paid me a lowcarb 50-60g HC daily where I had to download 4UI of Tresiba and where I did not even need fast insulin in the food and my average was 100, that I did not even believe it and that ...

Subsequently when we have increased the fats to make it Keto, again to the trades ... again upload those units of threeiba .. again have late peaks of hyperglycemia etc etc etc, so I reached the same conclusion when it was only in theRoad that when I have been accompanied.

What is the failure?What makes the Keto so black box that nobody knows how to answer directly what happens ????What happens ... what happens to me only?Well .. to me and 2 more diabetic companions like me than when the fats have increased in their diet has happened to them exactly the same? ..

It is not the subject of gluconeogenesis because the amount of protein is controlled is more .... I notice glycemic climb when the origin of the protein is pig or chicken and when it is salmon or white fish I barely have rebound.

This reminds me of that song of ... the fault was from the cha cha chá.

PS: I am not against the Keto is more what I want to know is what really happens and I do not think that the solution is to read 3 or 4 books that are talking about the Keto to understand and know how my body manages the daily macronutrients thanI give him in a 1800kcal diet.

I particularly do not always use a fixed basal number, I think this happens to you in general, that is, more or less stress, more or less exercise, this number can change.

In my case, only as an example I tell you, I fast 16h 18h or what I need according to my day and I feel like it since I do not consider it a fast, it comes out naturally.My meals only do two, the first is the strongest in protein, healthy fats and some vegetables, this is during the day you can always observe it as your glucose changes or not, if it is raising then correcting plenty.

The second one at the night, although I usually do it too early, you have to be more care more than anything because you go to bed, especially when you start in ketYou put your insulin does not have to happen, in my case I tell you that I have no alarms on, there are days that I get in bed 50 or 60 of blood glucose, hehehe crazy ... I would have said years ago, now I say .... what happened, when I get up I am with 80, 90 or 100.

It is important to be active, this is sure that you do, move is key, we are in what we are oto, lowcarb, etc.

Our body will tend to create glucose, it has not removed it, I want to create it, be it from fat, carbs, or proteins, or the same stored in our liver, the same that so many readings gives us when it sends us glucose, by the waywonder.

I hope to help you, in my case I assure you that I do not miss carbs, there is very high food in delicious nutrients, carrying this is very simple, finding food in many restaurants to which I go that are many is simple,Very simple.

On what you comment on the fats, you may have insulin that acts on that longer digestion, the fiasps are very short, for the carbs of course phenomenal, I do not use them, longer novorapid better.

Fat is synonymous with energy, a slow but very effective energy, which takes to digest, for that reason you may have that change, slowing down the digestion many people get the same benefit without putting fat, or using less.

It happens to me that about 3 or 4 in the morning starts me, I can go to bed at 11 to 60 and get up at 200 at 7.If I wake up to go to the bathroom on 5 o'clock and see that I am 150 and climbing, I correct myself but I still wake up at 140 minimum.
I have thought that it can be the protein peak but I have also limited the proteins at dinner and try to make very light dinners and continue to pass.How do you avoid it?
One day I will try not to have dinner and see if it continues to happen to me or not ...

At night in my case, blue fish, it generates very little elevation, as the fair of proteins, because I do the fat intake at the food, green leaf nights, blue fish, it goes from cinema in my case, that if I ceno early, insulin, insulinAnd melatonin get along very badly to go to bed with full stomach, in my case it is how you always go up this cycle is normal, also good if it does not leave a mother.Try to upload that insulin Tresiba or the one you spend are not afraid to do it, sometimes only two units do miracles,

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I can't dinner early because I get out of work late and about more than four and wings 7 I'm not hungry.
SwISHE ABOUT 9 OR 9 AND MEDIUM

Nor should it be a problem of late dinner, you know that in our case it is to try hundreds and hundreds of times what works for us, continues to test, for me it was a success to place the three in the morning, there are people who prefer it toHalf a day, but above all that this protein and some fat at night will make its appearance between 2h and a half to 3h, play with that value.

But the important thing is to enjoy all the changes, to have if you get better quality of life yet, what is said for this way of life is easy, no calculations, no concerns if I am in hiccum, hopefully I would have applied it beforeIn my life.

But how do you calculate that of the climb at three hours of the proteins?Pq you're not going to get up at 2 in the morning to put a bolus?
And something else, what advantages did it have for you to change three in the morning?
I do see that I have a bestial resistance in the morning, less than noon, although supposedly threeiba is flat, in practice it is not, I see that I have downward trends over two in the afternoon and greater insulin resistance due to insulinThe morning and after dinner, with that profile, how do you see three to change three at another time?Thanks

Excuse me, do not answer you, dinner as I calculate what you say, I always arrive very flat between 80 to 90With more than 100 novorapid and arranged, I never put more than three units, something weird.Only Ceno what works for me rarely change I am a bland, hehe.

About the Tresiba I put it at night, if I put it at night the action I had more in the morning something I did not want, because in the morning I am at all fasting.

Put it in the morning helps me ..... that during the morning it is activated and just at 14 or 15h first meal I already have it in progress, and when I get up it is finishing its cycle and just there I put it again, in my case I look for the maximum action in my two meals, the rest I am missing from intakes, only good coffee or bulletproof cofe.

The dinners are tedious, I think that as we think at night everythingcontrolled hehehe we sleep.

This happened to me that you comment when changing the cycle of the basal something helps, really, there is to lose, we must try.

Let's see one thing is to see that it goes up and you have a logical range, another thing is that you go through the clouds

meginer said:

salad said:
meginer,

I also have that pattern:

* Brutal resistance in the morning.Breakfast at 11, 3 or 3.5 HC with two Boloras de Novorapid, 20 or 30 minutes before and shoot a "Peazo Pico" of 100 points do whatever.Well, except when breakfast at my house on the weekend with an integral bread of truth and more physical activity.
*Then at eating time, as I take less than 3 HC -We Bolus- I go to insured hypoglycemia.
*The days I do yoga I have to snack
*The dinners, either light, of 2 HC maximum (vegetable and egg or breast breast or some cheese) I do not peak, but for the 11 or 12 I come up to 3 am and spend the night through the heights.I usually correct before bedtime and yet passed the night about 150.

It gives me the impression that, if I restrict the hydrates at night, the liver converts what it has on hand in glucose.To betrayal, at the wrong time and with a lot of resistance to the correction with fast.
What do you think of you?

Well, it seems that you are talking about me, just that I do not make so much food, only three and sometimes or breakfast or take something very light, type of a little Greek yogurt and that's it.

I make three meals;
Breakfast at 11
Food at 15:20
Dinner at 9:30 p.m.
Only melting if at yoga time I am below 110 (a piece of fruit) Tuesday and Thursday
The schedules are horrible, I know.I have to adapt to my workday.
Day from 8 to 14:30 well sitting at the office in front of the computer.When I go back to breakfast I upload the 8 plants walking.If the past peak an hour gets in a yellow zone, I get up and lower another 8 plants
I usually sit to eat already in 80 and down in free fall.
Monday and Wednesday Teleworking in the afternoon and I try to make a home weight routine
The food does not produce a peak, in fact if I take few HC I tend to hypoglycemia after eating.
I have it very clear, but I don't know how to handle it better.
On Sunday I make a 2 -hour and peak walk, approximately 9 km.I do not get fast at breakfast and on the one I have already run out of battery and I have to take a banana to lift the hypo that comes and a slice of whole wheat bread with turkey, ham or cheese to last.
It seems desperate to spend the day justify and rescue and the night through the clouds.

Hello.They are all interesting and personal comments, very individual.But I think you have to include the variable physical activity, it is vital for us.Daily exercise, and sorry to say that a walk is not worth it.Try to swim in a demanding way and then dine what normal, would bet on what the Alba effect decreases.
Include an hour of career, bicycle, gym or something that activates metabolism daily and everything will improve ....

Uff, an hour a day.I'd love to.I had stopped swimming in the afternoon.I opened my appetite a lot and caused me insomnia.On summer vacation I do 1000 meters swimming in the morning, I love it.I debuted in September and I was in July and August doing a lot of sports, I suppose in ketosis, because I lost 4 kg in a month.
I am still in first diabetes, a bit cowardon with sport for fear of hypoglycemia.
But I will take your advice into account and I will try to move more

salad said:
uff, a daily hour.I'd love to.I had stopped swimming in the afternoon.I opened my appetite a lot and caused me insomnia.On summer vacation I do 1000 meters swimming in the morning, I love it.I debuted in September and I was in July and August doing a lot of sports, I suppose in ketosis, because I lost 4 kg in a month.
I am still in first diabetes, a bit cowardon with sport for fear of hypoglycemia.
But I will take your advice into account and try to move more

I calm down completely on an empty stomach, in pure ketosis using my ketogenic bodies, simply amazing, you forget that you are diabetic@ everything is starting, moving is vital.

aer said:
hello.They are all interesting and personal comments, very individual.But I think you have to include the variable physical activity, it is vital for us.Daily exercise, and sorry to say that a walk is not worth it.Try to swim in a demanding way and then dine what normal, would bet on what the Alba effect decreases.
Include an hour of race, bicycle, gym or something that activates metabolism daily and everything will improve ....

I go to the gym on a daily basis, at least one hour, less Saturdays and Sundays than the way, somewhat smaller, there are days that I make aerobic.And other anaerobic, Body fight type that is quite intense and eg of strength, I have a similar schedule.To the salad, lunch late and I go to the gymnasium around 7.
And yet, you see, nocturnal increases that I don't know how to control, really.

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The Keto diet is much better than the hygarb that the endocrinologists recommend but that puts the glycemies in a Russian master.Better is still the Dr Bernstein diet of his book "Diabetes Solution".Dr Bernstein a T1D of more than 85 year experiences it in it.I did it with my son and achieve much better glycems than with what Endo recommends.It looks like the Keto but does not propose fat intake.If anyone wants the book in PDF I can happen

The problem that I see .. is the issue of the use of humulin to square the digestion times and now

If this is true with Humulinr, the ultrarapid does not go to this diet, but in Argentina we convince our endo to prescribe it and come good

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now I want to tell youKeto and I don't see this north ...

Is the diet bearable?Yeah

Do you have all that issue of mental clarity etc ..?Yeah

Is it bearable at the glycemic level?In my case, no.

I do not know if I do something wrong, but at the initial level if ... it does not generate glycemic peak ... but at 3-4h prepare .... like a 200-220 with an insulin resistance that costs a lot to go down...

When this happens to you at lunch, it has a pass because the face gives it to you at 6:00 p.m.

Now ... the ones who do it ... have you gone through this?I repeat .... I've been + 6 months doing it

I'm going to give you a chance until June but I do not get anything extra, I will stay in a lowcarb

Although the doctrine is not peaceful regarding Keto diets, I leave an article that can be interesting according to recent studies, 2021, where certain risks are exposed in its follow -up for long periods of time.It is possible that each body reacts differently, so I do not think it is worth "cup and pure for everyone."Throughout my 55 years of diabetes I have done a little of everything, endocrine diet, vegetarianism, ayurveda diet, and I opted for the last years for a low hydrates diet, around 60 grams daily and I think in thisPercentage did not go wrong to me, although cholesterol was raising me quite a lot.I tried to lower the hydrates more to approach the Keto diet, but it was impossible for me, since it happened to me and of mental clarity nothing, I began to have some considerable attention and lack of attention, although the truth that I have never known if it wasfor the diet or for another reason.Therefore, I have returned to the Mediterranean diet in its Diet Mind version, because in addition to glucose, by my age, 64, and time of diabetes development I am interested in maintaining mental health and brain in the best possible conditions.I have improved my physical resistance and my analysis, I appear as the best nourished, cholesterol and glycemias lowered, after trial and error time, they have stabilized.In fact, the insulin/hydrates ratio has been going down, I imagine it is because of the fiber that I take to make me a sweater.Well is my experience.
Attached the link to the article
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How was menopause?I have DB type 1 for 40 BC

Well, as I have been in menopause for me for a few years there have been two different periods.The first years, about seven or eight did very well.I was more stable, much more stable and I did not notice any resistance, I was delighted the truth, I lost an average of three kilos.It has been like about four years that I have started to notice, very slowly yes, greater insulin resistance, it is true that I also do less sport for an injury that I had on the back that had to operate.Now the days that I do not exercise did notice enough resistance, in fact I had to leave the novorapid in the meals and replace it with the FIASP, because it took a long hour to take effect and days it was like water, in addition as the threeiba is soFlat, any postprandial hyperglycemia no longer brows it, at least me.But I don't know if it will be exactly menopause or that I have been less active and with more stress than before, I would not know how to tell you, because I suppose that the effects of menopause would be noticed almost from the beginning, right?Let's say thatIt has been from the sixties (50 years of DBTS then) when the thing has become more complicated, but my habits, for different circumstances, have also changed to worse, because if I do my yoga routine, etc etc, to the24 hours the difference is already noticeable.The truth is that I do not believe much in the generalizations of the type A such years, such a thing happens, it depends more on the circumstances, genetics and lifestyle of each one.If I had done everything that my mother prophesied when I started having led a disgust life and the same was raising Malvas, which would not be surprising, of pure boredom.In short, I have the feeling that it is superimportant to maintain healthy discipline, Mes de Mesar in Corpore Sano "especially when exercising, in my case, it is like the regulator of the entire system.

@Davidcasinos could you give an example of a full day?meals, glycemias, insulin and quantities ..

This topic is very interesting.

Thank you!

marine said:
@davidcasinos could you give an example of a full day?meals, glycemias, insulin and quantities ..

This topic is very interesting.

Thanks!

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When waking up to food, no food is more or I need it, just a good black coffee

To breakfast that is my first meal about 14 or 15 hours depends on my day, work trips, etc.
Eggs cannot be missing 3 or 4, some cheese with them, vegetables, and according to the day something of a good unprocessed bacon, along with some nuts.

Dinner, always blue fish, Sardina almost always, here there are many options, accompanied with vegetables.

Rare snack rare (only if I'm hungry), if I'm hungry .... some fatty Greek yogurt, strawberries, cream or what I get to mix, Peanut Butter, blueberries, or some nuts.

And as every human being is written in stone ... if you have to go out to eat, something that I do frequently there are many options to choose, we can and we must enjoy a lot

Moving is key, creating insulin sensitivity is vital, well fasting, sport, but who says that leading a low glucose lifestyle creates resistance, I tell you that this way of eating is not, there are more factors.

Very little insulin, between 1 or two of Novorapid, or none.

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marine said:
@davidcasinos could you give an example of a full day?meals, glycemias, insulin and quantities ..

This topic is very interesting.

Thanks!

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When waking up to food, no food is more or I need it, just a good black coffee

To breakfast that is my first meal about 14 or 15 hours depends on my day, work trips, etc.
Eggs cannot be missing 3 or 4, some cheese with them, vegetables, and according to the day something of a good unprocessed bacon, along with some nuts.

Dinner, always blue fish, Sardina almost always, here there are many options, accompanied with vegetables.

Rare snack rare (only if I'm hungry), if I'm hungry .... some fatty Greek yogurt, strawberries, cream or what I get to mix, Peanut Butter, blueberries, or some nuts.

And as every human being is written in stone ... if you have to go out to eat, something that I do frequently there are many options to choose, we can and we must enjoy a lot

Moving is key, creating insulin sensitivity is vital, well fasting, sport, but who says that leading a low glucose lifestyle creates resistance, I tell you that this way of eating is not, there are more factors.

Very little insulin, between 1 or two of novorapid, or none.

thank you so much !!

David is the example of the example?or do you put little protein of animal origin?(Pork, chicken, veal ...) I see a lotWith a beautiful 200.

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@davidcasinos could you give an example of a full day?meals, glycemias, insulin and quantities ..

This topic is very interesting.

Thanks!

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When waking up to food, no food is more or I need it, just a good black coffee

To breakfast that is my first meal about 14 or 15 hours depends on my day, work trips, etc.
Eggs cannot be missing 3 or 4, some cheese with them, vegetables, and according to the day something of a good unprocessed bacon, along with some nuts.

Dinner, always blue fish, Sardina almost always, here there are many options, accompanied with vegetables.

Rare snack rare (only if I'm hungry), if I'm hungry .... some fatty Greek yogurt, strawberries, cream or what I get to mix, Peanut Butter, blueberries, or some nuts.

And as every human being is written in stone ... if you have to go out to eat, something that I do frequently there are many options to choose, we can and we must enjoy a lot

Moving is key, creating insulin sensitivity is vital, well fasting, sport, but who says that leading a low glucose lifestyle creates resistance, I tell you that this way of eating is not, there are more factors.

Very little insulin, between 1 or two of novorapid, or none.

thank you so much !!

David is the example of the example?or do you put little protein of animal origin?(Pork, chicken, veal ...) I see a lotWith a nice 200.

It is not really fat, there are times that I put much more, depending on energy or hunger in my day by day, about the protein I do something similar is to say the up if I am very sensitive by training or because I enter the craving, when I go upIf in the afternoon as it happens to you, it usually goes up with that longer digestion, but as you observe it with correcting solved, eye I do not give it truce .... I correct in 110, with putting a unit it works for me, it is well known.

On animal protein and all kinds when I go out to eat, that is to say some steak or chuleton, entrecot, roasted chicken etc.

At night I never upload it, like fair, but if you leave a lot how your case is, something happens is not normal.

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@Davidcasinos could you give an example of a full day?meals, glycemias, insulin and quantities ..

This topic is very interesting.

Thanks!

Please miss more, look ......

When waking up to food, no food is more or I need it, just a good black coffee

To breakfast that is my first meal about 14 or 15 hours depends on my day, work trips, etc.
Eggs cannot be missing 3 or 4, some cheese with them, vegetables, and according to the day something of a good unprocessed bacon, along with some nuts.

Dinner, always blue fish, Sardina almost always, here there are many options, accompanied with vegetables.

Rare snack rare (only if I'm hungry), if I'm hungry .... some fatty Greek yogurt, strawberries, cream or what I get to mix, Peanut Butter, blueberries, or some nuts.

And as every human being is written in stone ... if you have to go out to eat, something that I do frequently there are many options to choose, we can and we must enjoy a lot

Moving is key, creating insulin sensitivity is vital, well fasting, sport, but who says that leading a low glucose lifestyle creates resistance, I tell you that this way of eating is not, there are more factors.

Very little insulin, between 1 or two of novorapid, or none.

thank you so much !!

David is the example of the example?or do you put little protein of animal origin?(Pork, chicken, veal ...) I see a lotWith a nice 200.

It is not really fat, there are times that I put much more, depending on energy or hunger in my day by day, about the protein I do something similar is to say the up if I am very sensitive by training or because I enter the craving, when I go upIf in the afternoon as it happens to you, it usually goes up with that longer digestion, but as you observe it with correcting solved, eye I do not give it truce .... I correct in 110, with putting a unit it works for me, it is well known.

On animal protein and all kinds when I go out to eat, that is to say some steak or chuleton, entrecot, roasted chicken etc.

At night I never upload it, like fair, but if you leave a lot how your case is, something happens is not normal.

Well, I am doing a lot at night, in fact it starts to rise as I have already commented, and the correction with fast looks like water.

@Davidcasinos, how slow do you use?or do you have a bomb?

regina said:
@davidcasinos, what slow do you use?or do you have a bomb?

I use Tresiba and Novorapid, but I prefer Lantus, these threeibas are so flat that you have to measure everything very well, we are not going out anything and adjust the rapids very well.

@Davidcasinos thank you very much!The truth is that you have clarified quite a lot of doubts.

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regina said:
@davidcasinos, how slow do you use?or do you have a bomb?

I use Tresiba and Novorapid, but I prefer Lantus, these threeibas are so flat that you have to measure everything very well, we are not going out anything and adjust the rapids very well.

Lantus scares me because they gave me very fat.Tresiba did not just take the point for what you say, as soon as you do not adjust the fast, or you eat some more protein (low food in HC), or exercise more or less intensely, or any other variable,Everything is mismatched.It gives the sensation of that it goes well for a very routine life and always the same, with the same schedules of everything and without variations.That's why I'm wondering if you could go better Toujeo on the subject of nights.What do you think?

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regina said:
regina said:
@davidcasinos, what slow do you use?or do you have a bomb?

I use Tresiba and Novorapid, but I prefer Lantus, these threeibas are so flat that you have to measure everything very well, we are not going out anything and adjust the rapids very well.

Lantus scares me because they gave me very fat.Tresiba did not just take the point for what you say, as soon as you do not adjust the fast, or you eat some more protein (low food in HC), or exercise more or less intensely, or any other variable,Everything is mismatched.It gives the sensation of that it goes well for a very routine life and always the same, with the same schedules of everything and without variations.That's why I'm wondering if you could go better Toujeo on the subject of nights.What do you think?

So tojuelo is more or less of the same father as the three, Lantus is to use without fast, in fact his slow/fast action helps that first moment with the HC if there are not many.With this same Lantus he almost didn't use or quickly.Lantus the partia twice.Now with Tresiba being flat flat, the adjustment must be more exquisite, as you do not put your rapid rations well with the insured HC lio.

For this reason I chose this lifestyle "Keto" Out Houses, tranquility and insulin is needed when an extra celebration falls because using insulin, but only on these occasions.