I can stabilize between 100 and 110 ....

Could we open a topic about low car and hang ideas there?They are finishing me ...

Well, @meginer is a protein diet, not like as such because "you should not drink fat" and in the oto if they support fat.

I have already lost 8 kg, I am finally more me than before !!!What he told me in Endo, that I would lose between 1.5-2kg of my accumulated reservations.

My diet is for phase I:

- Breakfast: coffee with light soybeans and 2 slices of protein bread (I buy franjuba because the Nutrineam (the brand of Sanitas) is very expensive), with a little sugar -free jam, this is 5g of HC (in my body 3 units offast)
- Half morning: half smoothie or any nutrineam product that carries protein (which I do not take because I do not remember the non -hungry) this is about 0.7 g HC
- Meals: vegetable about 125 g and protein another 100 g (meat or fish).I should not, but I take a culin of coffee with light soybeans (60 ml) not to fall asleep working.Total about 10 g HC, without insulin.
- mid -afternoon: half smoothie or any nutrineam product that carries protein;When I'm hungry, almost never.Sometimes I take a handful of nuts or almonds.The smoothies take me to satisfy me.
- Dinner: a nutrineam product, but as I go hungry at that time, I complement it with a little cheese or protein, but little to not pass me because they carry fat too and it is about not adding more to the one I already stored.

Phase II will be when I reach my objective weight;Then I will change the diet to return to a "normal" but not make me fat as much as now.

I think I do not reach 20 g of HC a day, but my ketones have come down.I bought strips to see.The first days I had a lot of concentration, now less.

I also drink 2L of water a day.

ruthbia said:
well @meginer is a protein diet, not keto as such because "you should not take ox" and in the Keto if they admit fats.

I have already lost 8 kg, I am finally more me than before !!!What he told me in Endo, that I would lose between 1.5-2kg of my accumulated reservations.

My diet is for phase I:

- Breakfast: coffee with light soybeans and 2 slices of protein bread (I buy franjuba because the Nutrineam (the brand of Sanitas) is very expensive), with a little sugar -free jam, this is 5g of HC (in my body 3 units offast)
- Half morning: half smoothie or any nutrineam product that carries protein (which I do not take because I do not remember the non -hungry) this is about 0.7 g HC
- Meals: vegetable about 125 g and protein another 100 g (meat or fish).I should not, but I take a culin of coffee with light soybeans (60 ml) not to fall asleep working.Total about 10 g HC, without insulin.
- mid -afternoon: half smoothie or any nutrineam product that carries protein;When I'm hungry, almost never.Sometimes I take a handful of nuts or almonds.The smoothies take me to satisfy me.
- Dinner: a nutrineam product, but as I go hungry at that time, I complement it with a little cheese or protein, but little to not pass me because they carry fat too and it is about not adding more to the one I already stored.

Phase II will be when I reach my objective weight;Then I will change the diet to return to a "normal" but not make me fat as much as now.

I think I do not reach 20 g of HC a day, but my ketones have come down.I bought strips to see.The first days I had a lot of concentration, now less.

I also drink 2L of water a day.

Thank you, it is strict, you will have super controlled blood glucose, right?Have you also lowered the basal?
I am going to try the bread, because it is the only thing that gives me more peak although with Fiasp I do not usually go from 150. I have also told me that I can try not breakfast to see if the basal covers me and I am more flat but my work isFrom quite tute in the morning and I don't know if I endure without breakfast.To me the milk as soon as I climb and I only take it in the morning with decaffeinated so I do not think that several.
You are not missing energies do not take practically hydrates and not fat?
How do you do it with exercise? Do not give you hypos?

Basal insulin drops from 16 to 8, at first with the high basal they gave me hypos at night but did not need insulin for the day.I went down to 8 but now I am in 12.
For breakfast I need insulin and in some food also according to the day, with a low basal, the few hydrates that as it does not control them and not low from 170 because some fat is ingested at the end, but I have decided not to put insulin but I am forAbove 190.
If I have "a lot" insulin circulating, my body does not pull the accumulated fat.For me the fat is one more hydrate, at two hours it is a carbate.Yesterday pique cheese for dinner and I have risen in 200, the cheese has 0 G HC .... everything is fat.My problem is the fats equal or more than hydrates.

I feel good about mood, and when I do sports, glycemia does not lower me or I get on, I guess it's because my body begins to consume fats and produce carbohydrates.That is why I control the ketones.I don't have ketoacidosis at the moment, I imagine it is because of basal insulin, when I debuted I had no insulin and gave a lot of ketoacidosis.

ruthbia said:
basal insulin drops from 16 to 8, at first with the high basal they gave me hypos at night but I didn't need insulin for the day.I went down to 8 but now I am in 12.
For breakfast I need insulin and in some food also according to the day, with a low basal, the few hydrates that as it does not control them and not low from 170 because some fat is ingested at the end, but I have decided not to put insulin but I am forAbove 190.
If I have "a lot" insulin circulating, my body does not pull the accumulated fat.For me the fat is one more hydrate, at two hours it is a carbate.Yesterday pique cheese for dinner and I have risen in 200, the cheese has 0 G HC .... everything is fat.My problem is the fats equal or more than hydrates.

I feel good about mood, and when I do sports, glycemia does not lower me or I get on, I guess it's because my body begins to consume fats and produce carbohydrates.That is why I control the ketones.I don't have ketoacidosis at the moment, I imagine it is because of basal insulin, when I debuted I had no insulin and gave a lot of ketoacidosis.

The only thing that I don't like very much is just not insulin until you are in 190. I think it's a lot.To avoid future problems, the endocrine has put a limit between 70 and 130 (and even up to 120, counting the postprandial !!, that is, at all times, even just after food).That can only be achieved with low HC and with your corresponding insulin.I need to lower about 6 kg or 7, I got four but I have stayed there.I will try the bread.Thank you.

@Ruthbia I don't understand what if you have a lot of insulin circulating through the body does not pull accumulated fat ... why?

My thresholds are 80-125 mg/dl;I have decided to stay high because otherwise I spend the day by clicking.
The more insulin use, the less fat it is.

alberto_13 said:
@ruthbia I don't understand what if you have a lot of insulin circulating through the body does not pull accumulated fat ... why?

@rutbia thank you very much, but it is very complicated I do not understand it, if there is a lot of insulin in blood and you have not ingested HC, because it does not pull the fats?

No idea @alberto_13, I only know that with insulin I get fat little by little.

Insulin is what makes the glucose generated by hydrates become used, to the muscles or reserves.
If there is no insulin, hydrates do not pass from the blood to the muscle and begin to create ketones and burn fats (not controlled diabetes) with high blood glucose levels.

Also if hydrates are not ingested, insulin is not generated and the body pulls fats (typical ketogenic diet, for which little insulin is needed by not taking hydrates).

I understand so.

Isabelbota said:
insulin is what makes the glucose generated by hydrates become used, to the muscles or reserves.
If there is no insulin, hydrates do not pass from the blood to the muscle and begin to create ketones and burn fats (not controlled diabetes) with high blood glucose levels.

Also if hydrates are not ingested, insulin is not generated and the body pulls fats (typical ketogenic diet, for which little insulin is needed by not taking hydrates).

I understand so.

Thanks Isabel but I have stayed as I was, how complicated this is !!

ruthbia said:
my thresholds are 80-125 mg/dl;I have decided to stay high because otherwise I spend the day by clicking.
The more insulin use, the less fat it is.
What insulins do you use?

@Meginer I am now with 12 units of Toujeo and 3 UDS of Novorapid at breakfast.
Before the diet used 16 units of Toujeo and 6 uncomitance of novorapid in each meal.

I have reduced insulin;Now above all it serves me to take advantage of the carbohydrates produced by the burning of reserves.I no longer have ketones in urine, I suppose that with the days the body is normalized and behaves like in a healthy person that when it burns fats does not produce ketones, they are authegulated.