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Quick insulin change

  
Foxandxss
07/09/2019 10:26 p.m.

Hello, my partner (T1D) uses a novorapid flexpen and well, it does not go wrong, but given their way of life, the fiasp would make it better.Can you change insulin like this because?She has her diabetology to about 2000km (another country) and while they assign one here and such, because it can spend time.

Tomorrow we are going to prescribe more insulin and or we tell him to prescribe fiasp or buy a box and the payment of my pocket.Although the question is that, if you can change and try another without much risk.

Thank you.

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mamarvazq
07/10/2019 11:43 a.m.

Ask for the reference endocrinology hospital at your health center.There you can prescribe the FIASP insulin temporarily while waiting for the new doctor.
In Spain, insulin cannot be purchased (at least legally) without a medical recipe (public or private health, either with electronic recipe or traditional recipe) although you pay it completely (except if they know you a lot).

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Foxandxss
07/10/2019 11:50 a.m.

Oh, interesting to know that.The other day we ran out of Toujeo and went to the pharmacy to see "if it cast" (the recipe was expired) and sold it to us.I imagine that if I would see the medical recipe (although expired) and that's why he did.In addition, insulin is necessary to live.

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Ruthbia
07/15/2019 7:32 p.m.

In the pharmacy they sell you any insulin without a recipe.I have offered several who did not know me, I have only shown that it was diabetic.

I use both Fiasp and Novorapid.
I like more novorapid, I need less units and it's more effective.
It is assumed that Fiasp is faster and lasts less but in my body the two of them act in terms of speed.
So, looking for a little of that that is faster (which does not work for me) Fiasp for breakfast and novorapid for the rest of meals.

Lada enero 2015.
Uso Toujeo y Novorapid.

  
sigsauer
07/15/2019 9:12 p.m.

ruthbia said:
in the pharmacy they sell you any insulin without recipe.I have offered several who did not know me, I have only shown that it was diabetic.

I use both Fiasp and Novorapid.
I like more novorapid, I need less units and it's more effective.
It is assumed that Fiasp is faster and lasts less but in my body the two of them act in terms of speed.
So, looking like a little of that that is faster (which does not work for me) Fiasp for breakfast and novorapid for the rest of meals.

I understand that in the pharmacy they will sell you the insulin that you are scheduled by your medic@ when you present your health card, I cannot go to the pharmacy and ask for a FIASP box because today I have lifted me wanting to try FIASP and the day after Tresiba TresibaOr the one that occurs to me that week, in fine.-

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solaria
07/16/2019 1:23 a.m.

@Foxandxss, I understand that you will go to a header to give you insulin recipe.Your question is whether it could be contraindicated from Novorapid to Fiasp.When there is a change of slow insulins, it is already known that you have to wait +- a week for the body to habit.As for the fast, the prospect does not say.And for my experience it works immediately.What I recommend is to try less units.Greetings.

Debut 46 â- 2012. DM1. Celiaquía e intolerancia lactosa. Anemia perniciosa.
MiniMed 640g + SmartGuard.

  
Foxandxss
07/16/2019 6:17 p.m.

Thank you.In the end he prescribed it to us and it is wonderful

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Ruthbia
07/17/2019 10:22 a.m.

@sigsauer because no, I do not carry the electronic recipe, I have simply shown that it was diabetic and they have sold it to me.Also out of your community, you can't use it, so ... or buy it and you go to the emergency room to give you insulin because without a displaced card you do not attend to you any family doctor today.

@Solaria with FIASP you need more units than with Novorapid, the endocrine told me when it gave me a test vial and it is also so prescribed.Before the endocrine could not prescribe, they only indicated and the family doctor included it in your recipe, now they have modified it and the endocrine itself can add it to the electronic recipe.

Fiasp is faster than novorapid but not much more, they say that 5 min but it is not true, my novorapid acts in 40 min and Fiasp in 15 min.I do not consider these ratios "fast."But each body is different.
I am left with Novorapid without a doubt.

Lada enero 2015.
Uso Toujeo y Novorapid.

  
Anaisabel
07/17/2019 1:42 p.m.

@Ruthbia, with FIASP you don't need any more units with novorapid, they need less.Well that happens to me, so your endocrine is not right.I have gone to the doctor in another community and have served me without problems.

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Anaisabel
07/17/2019 1:46 p.m.

If a pharmacy sells you ibuprofen without a recipe they go against the law, because the same goes for insulin.That you can get it if security protocols are skipped in pharmacies.

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sigsauer
07/17/2019 5:39 p.m.

@Ruthbia first read a little before writing without thinking, you are saying that in the pharmacy they sell "any" insulin "without recipe" and I have since you can only buy the insulin that you have scheduled and prescribed by your "specialist medical", I cannot go to any pharmacy and ask for fiasp because I do not have a guideline inside my electronic recipe that I think is what I wondered in the first post of this thread, I can take toujeo and humalog junior that are the ones that I have scheduledBut no "any insulin" ...

Second, inform yourself a little before writing because you can already take medications in any autonomous community in this country.-
Link and pharmacy-aunque-cambies-de-de-Community-Video_201903055C7E87810CF2567FBAFC15C4.html

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Narciso
07/17/2019 9:51 p.m.

I have been with Fiasp for a week and I am not doing well at all.At the moment I continue with the bolis that I have left as novorapid.

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Narciso
07/17/2019 9:52 p.m.

anaisabel said:
If a pharmacy sells you ibuprofen without recipe they go against the law, because the same goes for insulin.That you can get it if the security protocols are skipped in pharmacies.

Security?So dangerous is insulin?

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Anaisabel
07/18/2019 1:44 p.m.

With all the medications you have to have a control of how they are given and to whom they are given.And if there are established protocols it will be for something and are to fulfill them.

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juanluis1957
07/21/2019 10:11 a.m.

@Narciso a reflection, if the diabetics make a thousand cabals to achieve some glycemic stability, imagine in the hands of "fans".It is not a good idea to allow anyone to buy insulin, they are still punctured because they have read that the brightness of the lips and palman increases.A nonsense?Think it.

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Ruthbia
07/22/2019 2:41 p.m.

@Sigsauer I have tried this weekend in Toledo, community of Castilla La Mancha, I live in the Community of Madrid and cannot read the electronic recipe on their computer to see what I have scheduled.They know me because I lived there before and gave me insulin, 80 euros.
The best of all is that the SW is the same at the national level but they have it capable of autonomies.

In the emergency department they serve you but a family or head doctor only with a displaced booklet.I was registered in Toledo and living in Madrid for several years and had to renew the displaced card every 3 months.When I go to the town, province of Soria, they only serve me in the emergency room and my parents who pass seasons, a card of displaced for their chronic medications are made.

Do not trust the news, it also says that Freestyle is free for children and in Madrid they still do not give it, only to extreme cases.On the other hand, in Castilla La Mancha they give it to everyone, at least those that I know take it.

The budgets are annual and do not change them throughout the year.When 2020 start we will see what makes each autonomy.

@Anaisabel As I said, I need 4 units of Fiasp and Novorapid only 3uds;I've been trying it for 3 months and it works like this.The endocrine warned me and I suppose I would say it with criteria.He also told me not to everyone liked and was going well.
I like more novorapid, in reactivity, behavior and efficiency.
I use both but as soon as Fiasp roads are over, I don't buy it more.

@Narciso insulin is dangerous like any medication but not as dangerous that we have to administer health professionals or control them as the Sintrom.
It is very effective in killing someone because the footprint that leaves is a product that is manufactured naturally in the human body.There are many films and books of this.

Lada enero 2015.
Uso Toujeo y Novorapid.

  
Anaisabel
07/22/2019 3:11 p.m.

@Ruthbia, I use fiasp just for breakfast and before I put 6 of novorapid and with fiasp 3. It is great because I have managed not to have the peak of 250-300 that I had before with novorapid that then went down, but there it was thereAn hour at least.For the other meals I continue with Novorapid since at the moment I am doing well.
We have to use each one what works for us.
Greetings.

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sigsauer
07/22/2019 8:01 p.m.

@Ruthbia because my experience is precisely the opposite so this seems to go through neighborhoods or rather by autonomies and this summer era does not think it is the best to draw conclusions ..
On Saturday in a small town in Cádiz I entered a pharmacy to precisely try this of what we talked and asked for an ointment that had prescribed my head of header and although it cost him about 15 mts to enter the system for holiday collapse, in the end, in the end,He got it and paid € 1.15 for the ointment;On Saturday my parents in a town in Palencia the same, they asked for their usual medication and although it was difficult to enter the system, they were dispensed without problems so my positive experience, it would be convenient for all autonomiestheir respective systems ...

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nigiri
07/22/2019 10:34 p.m.

Insulin has always been able to buy without a prescription, I have had to buy it outside Madrid.Now, the law has changed and even to buy ibuprofen, recipe is needed so it is likely that for insulin as well.
The issue of electronic recipe, as far as I know, does not work in other autonomous communities but if they are starting to establish, I'm glad, it is the most logical.

DM1 desde 1990 - Fiasp y Toujeo - HG: 6,1

  
RUBIOARES
07/28/2019 7:32 p.m.

I've been using Humalog for many years.7 months ago my endocrine suggested to try the FIASP, giving me 2 feathers.After finishing the first pen, I communicated (by email) to the specialist who was better, and it included the drug in my electronic recipe.

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