New insulin "Fiasp" by Novo Nordisk

sigsauer said:
Eating I think it's very good, in fact, I imagine that if you get a little fair to food and eat some slow absorption, you will have to click after eating so I imagine that apart from prescribing it, they will have to give a small explanation or minicourse not to cause hypoglycemia and will not be prescribed to all people without a minimum of training.Above all I see it positive for the topic of correcting high glycemias that with the current insulins you can take 3 hours to correct .-

Totally agree on what you say.We must be very clear that you have to receive some real training not what the prospects say that their experience have not been good, let's put the case of "flat" insulins type Lantus.Being very clear that if the first meals where we use it, they are out of home have a normal Coca Coca or a gel and the glycometer nearby, rehearsal-error as always in our lives because each we are a world and diabetes is not a bookmathematical

In addition, for pump users, in front of a hypo, the stop the pump will be controlled faster, in addition to being able to play with normal, square or dual bolus depending on the type of HC and how it affects each one.I wait for her.
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Hello, Dr. Raquel Barrio and Dr. Patricia Enes have published a post analyzing this new insulin, in case of your interest: Link

I see it "well" but I see it more difficult to drive for those who make low -down peaks.The same with a bomb in my case would be to use it with a square child and be useful when correcting before.

Papajesus1 said:
I see it "well" but I see it more difficult to drive for those who make peaks down at meals.The same with a bomb in my case would be to use it with a square child and be useful when correcting before.

With this insulin, meals away from home have to be controlled a lot, and put one several punctures for the delays that are usually suffered between dish and dish in these meals.

Yes, the complicated thing will be with meals away from home, which are usually very long.But there you can use the now .. or two punctures of this new ... there is to try ..

Hello!Everything you say in relation to this new insulin seems very interesting.In my case, I think it would serve me as they said above to correct hyperglycemia that currently take two or three hours to correct.
I use the apidra and I put it just before eating or half of the food, so I don't know if the fiasp would help me for all the intakes x hiccup risk .. (or I would have to always click later...
We will see!

Last week I had consultation with the endocrine and I completely forgot to ask him about the FIASP, some@ who have prescribed it or is trying it ...?

sigsauer said:
last week I had consult with the endocrine and I was completely forgotten asking him about the fiasp, some@ who have prescribed it or is trying it ...?

Good is it already in the Spanish market?

fco_javier_8888 said:

sigsauer said:
last week I had consult with the endocrine and I forgot completely asking him about the fiasp, some@ thatThey have prescribed or being testing it ...?

Good is already in the Spanish market?

No

I tell the endocrine 15 days ago and had no news.

In September was the official presentation in Madrid to all official agencies, what I do not know is the time that passes from the presentation to the launch and medical recipe.-

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Hello, I live in England and here they have already included it in the treatment of DB.The nurse who has been easy because the cost is the same as the novorapid told me.

I have been with her for 1 week and I have to say that the impressions are very good.Picos of the postpandracials are much better.I have gone from 70% of having the levels in the target to 85%, set the freestyle.

It is true that I am not very demanding with the objective and I have NTRE 70 and 180, because what I try is to live with the diabtes and not for diabetes.

In summary, the FIASP highly recommended and there should not be many obstacles to include it in the Spanish system since the price is practically the same.

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@"PRAMTR" How is the duration of insulin .. ??That is, it is faster and shorter than the current ones or is faster but it has the same duration ..?3-4 hours.If it is as fast to act as they say if you arrive in good values ​​and you will eat some slow absorption can be put between or after the food ...

Does anyone know when the new fast insulin will arrive in Spain?

sigsauer said:
@"pramru" what is the duration of insulin .. ??That is, it is faster and shorter than the current ones or is faster but it has the same duration ..?3-4 hours.If it is as fast to act as they say if you arrive in good values ​​and you will eat some slow absorption can be put between or after the food ...

What should be done is to reduce waiting time.If before with 100 you waited 15 minutes to eat since you put the insulin, you can probably now start eating directly ...

For what I understand is that this insulin and other analogs of other commercial houses that are in the phase of clinical trials, where they act faster it is to control the glucose that our liver returns to the bloodstream, in terms of the ingested hydrates, do notYou have evidence that you improve your performance.What may if for example we ingest 50 gr of HC and our liver is providing us with for example 15 gr of glucose (which makes us upload the blood glucose instantaneously) avoid the effect of the sum of both.In fact, in these new trials they are not even accompanied by curves to see how the glycemia curve behaves when ingesting a certain number of HC.
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I have also started using Fiasp.
At the moment I am with the verification of bowling and I have not had to modify any.
I had no peaks on meals with the novorapid unless I ate fruit and if I have avoided them with the FIASP.
The sensitivity factor I did not have to modify, yes, like @"jconegar" I thought this insulin was going to lower blood glucose in less time and I have noticed no, it takes the same as the novorapid.
I have not eaten at this time meals with fats, so I cannot contribute any experience with corrections to this type of meals.
I have also not felt discomfort to put the bolus of meals.
Tomorrow I have a catheter change and I will put it in the insulin pump.I will tell you the experience with the basal.
What the endocrine told me is that having faster alomejor effect would have to reduce the basal of the meals.
I will tell you.

Good afternoon, I have also started using FIASP a month ago, in its pen version.
The truth is that I am still in the test/error phase.But I can say that above all it has helped me with the insulin resistance of the mornings.With Novorapid I had to administer the insulin minimum one hour before.With Fiasp I do it 10 minutes before breakfast and I don't have such a pronounced peak (maximums of 160).In general I have noticed that it takes less to cut peaks.I usually wear an average of 10-15 minutes before ingesting the HC.
In general, I have not modified insulin/ration ratios.
Nor have I noticed discomfort by injecting her unlike Novorapid.
The truth is that I am happy with the change.

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mireiab said:
good afternoon, I have also started using fiasp a month ago, in its pen version.
The truth is that I am still in the test/error phase.But I can say that above all it has helped me with the insulin resistance of the mornings.With Novorapid I had to administer the insulin minimum one hour before.With Fiasp I do it 10 minutes before breakfast and I don't have such a pronounced peak (maximums of 160).In general I have noticed that it takes less to cut peaks.I usually wear an average of 10-15 minutes before ingesting the HC.
In general, I have not modified insulin/ration ratios.
Nor have I noticed discomfort by injecting her unlike Novorapid.
The truth is that I am happy with the change.

Does the issue lower glycemia or start eating being for example in 140/150 have you seen that to lower cost and not so fast?And then to start eating but are you at a good level and you don't wait a long time to peak you?