How important are the meters that measure Cetona?

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Are they important?Because the truth is that I have had even more than 250, which above those values ​​is recommended to measure ketone, and always the same.0.1 or 0.2 at most.What has to happen for a dangerous number?MEASURES ARE VALANCE WHO MEETING THE TWO THINGS OR WITH GLUCOSE REACH?

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03/20/2016 2:07 a.m.
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Cetosis analysis do not overwhelm and do as many as you imply what to do.
Cetosis appears especially if you lack insulin, if you do intense hours with an unknown diet, if you have it high for a while.
Also when cetosis gives you I can assure you that you will notice and very well, I have had twice for sport in my life and I wanted them to put me a general anesthesia and sleep me.

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The acetone usually appears when you have been with more than 300 on a continuous way, I have never had acetone, so because it is not about having a high figure for a few hours if not maintaining that high figure for several days.

We have acetone when we debut, then it is already difficult to have it for what I tell you.

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08/02/2016 9:52 a.m.
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The important thing, when you see a high figure, is to correct quickly. If there is some acetone, it is removed quickly.
My daughter has never measured it, we have enough with glucose.

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08/02/2016 2:34 p.m.

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It is not that it is to have high figures or the hours you carry high, it is the lack of insulin.Although as you say with those figures maintained you have many ballots not to say all of having acetone.
For failure in the pump and run out of basal for hours I have come to have acetone with relatively normal figures and below 250.

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08/02/2016 4:49 p.m.

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It's as @gemater comments very well, acetone does not have to appear only with high glucose levels.For poor diet and sports training for a duration considered without having had a value above 150 I had when I started with the sport for a lack of HC, I have only had twice in my 30 years of diabetic and neither of the two for twohigh values.
I can also tell you that it is an impressive feeling of discomfort,
To correct ketosis I have once put the guidelines to continue indicated by endocrine, if you want and put them again.
I think I put them for the forum to see if someone copied them and please put them.

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Hello,
If it would be interesting to see the guidelines when one has ketosis.I really are afraid of him, more than anything for unknown.I have a pack of strips to analyze it and the truth would not know how to act when it gives me positive and what consequences I could have.

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08/07/2016 11:43 p.m.
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@tiber I have ever put the guidelines to follow in case of having ketosis, it is totally the opposite that you usually think that you have to do.
@gemater @ainhoa ​​I think you had the ones I put, now I'm on the beach and I don't have them, do you care if you have them there?Thank you.

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@Jconegar I tmbn I'm out jijiji, as soon as I get home I look for them and put them.@tiber, I have lived several cetosis experiences with my daughter.The ketone bodies are the product of a fat combustion, and may appear in a hyperglycemia situation, because insulin is insufficient, but also in a situation of Normaglycemia, for example during an intense exercise as the partner says, because there is not enough glucose contributionnor glycogen reserve and the body begins the combustion of fats.It can also occur accompanying a process of vomiting, gastroenteritis etc as a result of fast, the ketone bodies increased rapidly and had to take her to the hospital to put a glucosado serum and electrolytes, became very bad.We did not have a blood ketone machine until they did not put the pump, with the pump they may appear ketones due to lack of insulin more easily than with feathers since there is no basal insulin deposit in the body, and if the catheter obstructsWe lite it, before we had the strips of ketonuria, we had to measure in the PIS and check the color turn.
The contradictory of the action guidelines that @jconegar commented because you have to change the combustion product, of fat to glucose, which, in case of positive ketone bodies and hyperglycemia, in addition to supplying fast insulin according to a pattern that I later look for, it is necessary to start the ketosis diet, even with even high blood glucose, so that the cell begins to metabolize glucose.The ketosis diet consists of orange juice, skim milk, cookies, no fat and abundant water and clear liquids, then I look for it and put it.
In the case of positive ketone bodies and normal blood glucose, the supply of rapid carbohydrates, orange juice, cocacola, glucose sera, and continue monitoring cetonemia until its disappearance, as well as blood glucose.You have to rest, of course in those moments zero exercise.
If the situation escapes our control and the ketone bodies increase it is necessary to go to the emergency room.If they increase too much, the acidosis process can start, and that ... is very dangerous.
I have proven and read that there are organisms more likely than others to create ketones, I think this depends on personal metabolism, for example children are more sensitive to fast.

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08/08/2016 12:28 p.m.

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I think the roll I have released is best explained here:
Fundacionandiabetes.org/general/articulo/164/diabetes-y-Management-of-Situations-Cetosis

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08/08/2016 12:44 p.m.

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Very interesting what you comment and the last link.And should they give us or prescribe strips or a method to measure ketones in the SS?Or do you have to buy them on your own?
Because I asked the educator and the doctor and they told me that I would not worry about that it was rare that they climb me, and that if I would like to measure them because I would suspect that they were high, it was there and they measured it to me (in a very close factI went to the debut because I threw a few days tall and I was uneasy, debut with ketoacidosis, so I didn't trust ...).

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08/08/2016 12:59 p.m.

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@Miexrom, I have always been given in the SS, before those of Cetonuria, and from the bomb those of Cetonemia.I do not know if they have an obligation but if not, it seems fatal to me, I do not understand the mania of becoming dependent on them, it is true that with feathers it is more weird that it happens but it can happen, my daughter has happened to me and it is important to know how to detect it soonAnd at home, if it is in blood better PQ is more early.They should assume a certain personal criteria ... from entry ask them in demanding plan.Say you do sports and you are prone.

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08/08/2016 1:07 p.m.

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@ainhoa ​​I like your talk more than the link you have put hahaha, go crack.
In the indications those that you are going to put;) is very well explained how to act and the issue of insulin amounts to put in case of having it.
Thank you very much for being there.

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08/08/2016 1:13 p.m.

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There it goes ;;)

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08/08/2016 1:42 p.m.

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Mm how strange ... I don't know if the images are well charged?

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No @ainhoa ​​do not load.I take this opportunity to ask @Fer to work in that section of inserting photos both in post and mp because for the less majo it is hell.

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08/08/2016 1:51 p.m.

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@Luvi The theme of the images in private messages is already looking at it Fer, it is in it.
@Ainhoa ​​can you send them to me by mail and I upload them?thank you.

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Thanks @Ainhoa, here you have the guidelines that I think are the most correct to fix cetosis.
@Tiber here you have them, I do not usually save them here since I have them on paper at home, then I ask them for hahaha, you know that the next one will also name you;)

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08/08/2016 3:34 p.m.

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Thanks @ainhoa ​​for the answer, demand the next time I go, to see if there is luck.And thanks to @jconegar for uploading the images, I keep it and study!he he

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@miexrom, you do well in saving the images of @jconegar, they are the clearest thing I have seen on the subject.And if you are looking for ketosis diet online, I don't even tell you, you find nonsense of ketogenic diets.These guidelines are very clear and it is good to have them close.The demanding a bit seems very good to me, hehehe who knows who commands :)).A hug and thanks to you.

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