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@Regina I use toujeo, formerly Levemir and Lantus.
My toujeo leaves me flat for the day and nights, but I can't get up well for months.At first I thought it was the fats, I removed them and I still lift myself up, it doesn't matter what the client or does not cease, at about 2:30 or 3:00 the blood glucose rises.
Today I have quickly 2,that the fast went at 23:30 (it covers me 2 hours and little) and ceases very little .... it goes up because.
Toujeo has no peak of action in my body like Lantus or what you eat from Tresiba;The only thing that occurs to me would be to try it in two doses, but it is not advised to be prologue, the molecules are breaking over time to take effect, I do not know if it would improve.My endocrine did not tell me anything when I told him, he only offered me the bomb.

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Ruthbia
12/17/2021 12:18 p.m.

Lada enero 2015.
Uso Toujeo y Novorapid.

  

@Ruthbia, maybe putting a Toujeo unit at night ..
With Lantus we once thus arranged the morning rise
.What time do you put it on?If you put it in the morning, it seems that it falls short and could be fixed with one more unit.
The problems are to give hypos for the day...
My daughter goes back down at night and if you drop more doses, it rises for the day.
I think he will prove the toujeo, as the glyce comes out.
The truth is that no insulin, not even the best bomb, keeps us perfect.
I already comforted myself that the glyc does not rise from 6; 5.

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Regina
12/17/2021 4:03 p.m.

Hija de 35 años , diabética desde los 5. Glico: normalmente de 6 , pero 6,7 la última ( 6,2 marcaba el Free)
Fiasp: 4- 4- 3 Toujeo: 20

  

I put the basal at night, at 10pm approx, there are days that before, I coincide with dinner, Toujeo allows +/- 3 hours.
I have never tried to put it in the morning, just let's let it be in 2 shots.

Now I am in 14 units, I have uploaded 2 for the night climbs but I do not give me the same as with 12 units, I am lower for the day.

I still think that endocrine do not even know enough about this issue.

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Ruthbia
12/17/2021 7:15 p.m.

Lada enero 2015.
Uso Toujeo y Novorapid.

  

It is that each body is a world and the entire hormonal system influences glucose.
And also with the sensor you can see curves that were not seen before, I lived very calm with the glucometer without seeing the variations of the night.
I don't know if the sensor is making me more neura.
The fact is that my daughter is very quiet and likes threeiba because she does not give her the hypos of Lantus and eats less.
That wait to see the glycosilada and decide.
@Ruthbia, maybe putting it in the morning better, to try .., there are things that do not have much logic and it is right.
And the bomb would be the following, but I don't know what glycos are achieved with the best bomb... And I don't think the whole world is financed. The last one I think is 780 g or something ..., the most complete, correct alone ..

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Regina
12/17/2021 10:58 p.m.

Hija de 35 años , diabética desde los 5. Glico: normalmente de 6 , pero 6,7 la última ( 6,2 marcaba el Free)
Fiasp: 4- 4- 3 Toujeo: 20

  

Here we are going well, with half unity, no longer goes down so much at night, and for the day quite well too.
Let's see if we are giving with the key ..

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Regina
12/19/2021 10:47 p.m.

Hija de 35 años , diabética desde los 5. Glico: normalmente de 6 , pero 6,7 la última ( 6,2 marcaba el Free)
Fiasp: 4- 4- 3 Toujeo: 20

  

regina said:
here we are going well, with half unity, no longer goes down so much at night, and for the day quite well too.
Let's see if we are giving with the key ..

Medium unit less? Can you get three ???

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meginer
12/19/2021 11:25 p.m.
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@Maginer, is that it puts it with syringe, taking it out of the ball.A mania of mine with the slow.
Because with little dose, a unit influences him a lot.
You can do it with threeiba with 100U/ ml concentration, which are the same units as in the syringes.
If insulin had another concentration, it could not be done.Or you would have to make calculations..

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Regina
12/19/2021 11:36 p.m.

Hija de 35 años , diabética desde los 5. Glico: normalmente de 6 , pero 6,7 la última ( 6,2 marcaba el Free)
Fiasp: 4- 4- 3 Toujeo: 20

  

regina said:
@maginer, is that it is put with syringe, taking it out of the ball.A mania of mine with the slow.
Because with little dose, a unit influences him a lot.
You can do it with threeiba with 100U/ ml concentration, which are the same units as in the syringes.
If insulin had another concentration, it could not be done.Or you would have to make calculations..

Ah, I already said, hehe.

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12/20/2021 10:28 a.m.
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regina said:
@maginer, is that it is put with syringe, taking it out of the ball.A mania of mine with the slow.
Because with little dose, a unit influences him a lot.
You can do it with threeiba with 100U/ ml concentration, which are the same units as in the syringes.
If insulin had another concentration, it could not be done.Or you would have to make calculations..

This is my curve this night and it is similar every day, if I wake up around 3 and I see that I go up, I correct myself and get up somewhat lower (at 150 or so), but if I do not wake up, it is like today orworse.Now I am with the Tresiba in the morning, the only change I see is that I have it lower before dinner (I also exercise around 7) but then at dawn the climb is bestial, I wonder if it is hormonal (which is, by cortisol, alba effect etc) or if it does not reach 24 h (which is rare).
I have done everything, put it at noon, at night, twice ... Anyway, I don't know.

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12/21/2021 9:57 a.m.
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meginer said:
regina said:
@maginer, is that it is put with syringe, taking it out of the ball.A mania of mine with the slow.
Because with little dose, a unit influences him a lot.
You can do it with threeiba with 100U/ ml concentration, which are the same units as in the syringes.
If insulin had another concentration, it could not be done.Or you would have to make calculations..

This is my curve this night and it is similar every day, if I wake up around 3 and I see that I go up, I correct myself and get up somewhat lower (at 150 or so), but if I do not wake up, it is like today orworse.Now I am with the Tresiba in the morning, the only change I see is that I have it lower before dinner (I also exercise around 7) but then at dawn the climb is bestial, I wonder if it is hormonal (which is, by cortisol, alba effect etc) or if it does not reach 24 h (which is rare).
I have done everything, put it at noon, at night, twice ... Anyway, I don't know.

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12/21/2021 9:58 a.m.
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12/21/2021 9:58 a.m.
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It is as if you miss insulin the last section .. the best putting one or two units of slow when bedtime and one less for the day ..
I would try putting a unit when you go to bed and one less for the day, or one more unit when you go to bed and already ..

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Regina
12/21/2021 10:34 a.m.

Hija de 35 años , diabética desde los 5. Glico: normalmente de 6 , pero 6,7 la última ( 6,2 marcaba el Free)
Fiasp: 4- 4- 3 Toujeo: 20

  

Hello meginer,

In case it serves you, in my case I have been raising units of three of one in one until I flattened the curve.Increased the Tresiba units with respect to the summer of 4-5 units that put me in August/September 9-10 units currently.

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Josemibi
12/21/2021 10:39 a.m.

Db1 desde Diciembre 2007.
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regina said:
is as if you lack insulin the last section .. the best putting one or two units of slow when bedtime and one less for the day ..
I would try by putting a unit when you go to bed and one less for the day, or one more unit when bed
Josemibi said:
Hello meginer,

In case it serves you, in my case I have been raising units of three of one in one until I flattened the curve.Increased the Tresiba units with respect to the summer of 4-5 units that put me in August/September 9-10 units currently.

And it does not go up for the day?, I do increase a lot, so far I have gone from 10 to15 and I know but I notice that it lowers me during the day.
Do you put it at night?

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12/21/2021 10:49 a.m.
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@meginer, I think that if you put a unit at night, you will not notice it for the day ..
My daughter, for seasons I did with Lantus and worked ..,

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Regina
12/21/2021 10:51 a.m.

Hija de 35 años , diabética desde los 5. Glico: normalmente de 6 , pero 6,7 la última ( 6,2 marcaba el Free)
Fiasp: 4- 4- 3 Toujeo: 20

  

regina said:
@meginer, I think if you put a unit at night, you will not notice it for the day ..
My daughter, for seasons did that with Lantus and worked

What happens is that there is supposedly not to do that with three hard pq in theory more than 24 h and can overlap, I said it to the endocrine and told me that I did not, that it did not leave for the half -life of this type of insulin.Obviously I know that there are many who do it.Lantus is something else but Tresiba is ultralent.I will test

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12/21/2021 11:01 a.m.
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In my case I put it at the time of going to bed since it is the most regular moment I have found.The reference that I take is the figure with which I dawn, depending on that value I am adjusting units until I find a value that seems good to me.

These values ​​can be maintained for months or less than a week.In my case, it is based on stress levels.More stress, I will need more basal.

During the day the truth that between the three meals where I put fast and sport.I have no hypoglycemia although the basal increases.What is reflected is that the better this value at dawn less is the average glucose of the day.

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Josemibi
12/21/2021 11:08 a.m.

Db1 desde Diciembre 2007.
Fiasp y Tresiba.
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@meginer, I would monitor one night ... and one day of weekend ..,

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Regina
12/21/2021 11:10 a.m.

Hija de 35 años , diabética desde los 5. Glico: normalmente de 6 , pero 6,7 la última ( 6,2 marcaba el Free)
Fiasp: 4- 4- 3 Toujeo: 20

  

regina said:
@meginer, I would watch over a night ... and one day of weekend ..,

I will try again to put the night and go up to see.It would be good that it was just a matter of dose after the Q Levo Liada, hehehe.But I have always put on 9 and I go for 15 and the climb is equally pronounced, that's why I miss me so much.

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12/21/2021 11:16 a.m.
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@Maginer, my daughter has dropped dose not to go down so much at night, and now it starts to climb there, if low dose the duration is also.
He puts it in the morning and it happens just the other way around, he begins to go down at 3 in the morning, and you have to take something to bed and go up and then go down ...

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Regina
12/21/2021 12:04 p.m.

Hija de 35 años , diabética desde los 5. Glico: normalmente de 6 , pero 6,7 la última ( 6,2 marcaba el Free)
Fiasp: 4- 4- 3 Toujeo: 20

  

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