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3 out of 10 diabetics do not accept to suffer from the disease

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Sherpa41
04/29/2015 9:03 a.m.

mandril88 said:
If insulin lasts 6 hours you are a crack.The Humalog of a lifetime The degree of effect is 2h30 and 3 h in its maximum peak.From that time, the effect is residual.An example, after 3 hours of having eaten, if you measure yourself and you are above 200, you have fallen very short, because the effect of humalog in its maximum effect has not been able to correct the glucose peak..

I have dances at 5-6hr to get Humalog.And I do not need to put on basal because with the Humalog it already covers me all day, that if it also takes almost an hour to act.I have perfectly proven both with my glucometers (I measured the sugar 8-9 times a day) and the months used by free freestyle, at night I get regular that it lasts about 7 hr and with little units it keeps me much better thanthe slow ones I had to wear much and lift myself up ..

Try to explain to my endocrine but spent a good time looking for the Internet what regular insulin was so you can imagine your general knowledge level.And he who had before directly told me to bring him the series numbers of the insulin that he wanted because he could not be aware of all insulins.

mandril88 said:
With respect to the flu, there is no cure, but what only 100 years ago was a deadly disease, it is very rare, unless you have previous complications of respiratory tract, which you dieFrom the flu, there are now previous treatments to prevent the disease, and the most important thing is known to cause the disease, which with diabetes, they are giving blind sticks.

Normal flu or 100 years ago, nor was 200 not a deadly disease.The one that was mortal was the flu variant called Spanish flu just as if today a variant mixed with avian flu appears it would also be equally mortal, because our bodies are not immunized and evidently medicine has not discovered anything to fight against it.

En 1922 descubrieron la insulina, en 1930 la insulina lenta. ¿Que c*** han hecho desde entonces?

  
Mandril88
04/29/2015 10:02 a.m.

sherpa41 said:

I have dances at 5-6hr to get Humalog.And I do not need to put on basal because with the Humalog it already covers me all day, that if it also takes almost an hour to act.I have perfectly proven both with my glucometers (I measured the sugar 8-9 times a day) and the months used by free freestyle, at night I get regular that it lasts about 7 hr and with little units it keeps me much better thanthe slow ones I had to wear much and lift myself up ..

Try to explain to my endocrine but spent a good time looking for the Internet what regular insulin was so you can imagine your general knowledge level.And he who had before directly told me to bring him the series numbers of the insulin that he wanted because he could not be aware of all insulins.

Normal flu or 100 years ago, nor was 200 not a deadly disease.The one that was mortal was the flu variant called Spanish flu just as if today a variant mixed with avian flu appears it would also be equally mortal, because our bodies are not immunized and evidently medicine has not discovered anything to fight against it.

The symptoms of the flu in humans were described by Hippocrates about 2,400 years ago.14 15 Since then the virus has caused, in addition to the annual epidemic, numerous pandemics.Historical data on flu are difficult to interpret because symptoms can be similar to other diseases, such as diphtheria, pneumonia, dengue or typhus.Since 1510 about 31 pandemics have been described.The first detailed record of a gripal pandemic occurred in 1850. It began in Asia and extended to Europe and Africa.The pandemics followed during the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, being that of 1830–1833 especially virulent and of great morbidity, since it infected a quarter, approximately, of the exposed population.

__ It is to say that the Spanish influenza was the most mortal in terms of statistics, it does not mean that the flu as such was not deadly before it.Tell me today how many people die of flu?Few, very few .__

__ Novolog __ Insulina Asparto 15 minutes 30 to 90 minutes 3 to 5 hours
__ Apidra __ insulin glulisine 15 minutes 30 to 90 minutes 3 to 5 hours
__ Humalog __ insulin lispro 15 minutes 30 to 90 minutes 3 to 5 hours

Times: Maximo Pico- Effectiveness Time.
Normally, with this type of insulins, one must be measured at 2h 30 min or 3 h.Depending on the level, you must correct or even eat.That is, if after measuring I have 200, correct with the necessary units.If I find myself in 90 eye, since the degree of action is still feasible, so it is not difficult to eat a couple of cookies or similar, because the safest thing is that you suffer a decrease.

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nina45
04/29/2015 10:51 a.m.

Wooh I lose myself in your technical explanations ...
My aunt and niece do the easy ones: I am high I correct, I am low as something and already this ... both take care of their food (which does not mean living in a boiled vegetable).They are type II and type I respectively and my niece Type I says that he prefers to take a bit to abuse the insulin that he never knows (because he has not yet passed enough time) as can be harmful to the long and the "extras"For counted days ... when you learn to eat the chorizo, black pudding and fat potatoes they feel bad! ... And that's it !!(I assure you that you can enjoy healthy food) ...
Then, despite our care, as diabetes affects us is no longer in our hands and each body is a world ...
We have to do what we can do: take care of them as well as possible without forgetting to spend a little occasionallyGalician pine box ... and we will have it the same are diabetics or not ...).
Perhaps the fact that I have raised in "dealing with death" through ay ay in which my mother was always and my grandfather's best friends who have a funeral home (let's see if "I'm a vulture" really hahaha) I do, "I say, I have asked me many times that" we are nobody "and" life are two days "... and the few newspapers that remain I will enjoy Tooope !!! ...
In the purest groucho style Marx I will make an epitaph: "Forgive if I do not get up ... I'm with a hangover" hahaha ... my husband and me ... that they take away the dance!(This is what I thought of photos this summer when he was at a tris of death) ... I concluded that we had a great time ... sometimes with "extras" and sometimes simply in the sofa with a movieAnd a glass of wine ...
Kisses!

Diabetica tipo II desde Diciembre de 2012 pero descendiente de diabéticos desde nacimiento
Medicacion: metformina de 850 gr mañana, mediodia y noche.
Ultima glicosila 6
Lema: "If you want a positive life, spent time with positive people!"

  
nina45
04/29/2015 11 a.m.

Life is simple ... It is we who complicate it frustrating ourselves if we do not get things that perhaps are not within our reach (for health, economy, etc) ...
I do not know ... nothing happens if we cannot go every year of cruise, go to the Norwegian fjords or ride a balloon ...
You can be happy taking your children to the beach or playing the field (you take the opportunity to give it a "party" meal with enough hydrate: macaroni with bechamel, ice cream) and you take donuts and others) ... they are happy fordouble game ...
I think that everything bad comes since we do not take off from the piiiip (taco) computer and thus children are bored and if we have "dreams" that come to us great ...
Learning to value insignificant things is a great virtue!

Diabetica tipo II desde Diciembre de 2012 pero descendiente de diabéticos desde nacimiento
Medicacion: metformina de 850 gr mañana, mediodia y noche.
Ultima glicosila 6
Lema: "If you want a positive life, spent time with positive people!"

  
aaandres
04/29/2015 11:15 a.m.

mandril88 said:

And I tell you two things, the bus of the bus came from partying, which may drink alcohol or not.Badly for not taking care of yourself and not carrying some glucose.

I did not want to enter this debate because it is the typical that does not lead to a meeting point between the parties.
But this comment, Mandril88, is disgusting.
I hope you apologize and remove it.And if not, the forum administrator does.So far we could get!

Padre de Andrés, 17 años. Debut: septiembre de 2011.
Levemir (30ud. mañana y 24ud. noche) y Novorapid (en desayuno, comida, merienda y cena 40ud aprox - 24HC/día).
Medidor continuo DEXCOM G4 desde julio 2014
Hemo: 6.2 (Sept. 2013), 7.0 (Dic. 2013), 6.9 (Marzo 2014), 6,6 (Junio 2014), 6,7 (Sept. 2014), 7,0 (Dic. 2014), 7,7 (Mar 2015), 6,9 (Jul. 2015), 7,0 (Sept 2015), 7,4 (Dic 2015), 6,8 (Mar 2016), 6,6 (Julio 2016), 6,8 (Octubre2016)... 7,0 (Mar 2018)

  
Mandril88
04/29/2015 11:37 a.m.

aaandres said:
mandril88 said:

And I tell you two things, the bus of the bus came from partying, which may drink alcohol or not.Badly for not taking care of yourself and not carrying some glucose.

I did not want to enter this debate because it is the typical that does not lead to a meeting point between the parties.
But this comment, Mandril88, is disgusting.
I hope you apologize and remove it.And if not, the forum administrator does.So far we could get!

Why should I apologize?May I know I have not lacked respect for anyone.I have simply said that we do not know the cause of the decrease in glucose, I only know that it came from party and that it could or could not drink alcohol.And I repeat again, badly for not drinking glucose or hydrates.Or is it that glucose drops are not noticed?We all notice it to a greater or lesser extent.And being diabetic, you will have already given you more than one and two hypoglycemia to know what your symptoms are in that state.I do not say that it did it wrong, but that if you begin to notice a hypo, it is best to take some of hydrates as soon as possible.

Anyway, if you have bothered, I apologize to who I have offended, but I reiterate in my opinion

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Gala
04/29/2015 12:11 p.m.

That that we all notice in greater or lesser to roam ... there are totally asymptomatic hypoglycemia and more if your usual levels are 70-90, and you go down slowly, you stop perceiving the symptoms since the body has become accustomed tothey.You can be perfectly in 40 without noticing anything and right to the ground.
Also with the lantus and years of treatment, they are less noticeable

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Mandril88
04/29/2015 12:26 p.m.

gala said:
that we all notice or lessermYou stop perceiving symptoms since the body has become accustomed to them.You can be perfectly in 40 without noticing anything and right to the ground.
Also with the lantus and years of treatment, they notice less

I can't know the years of treatment, because I carry little, but that every time I go from 70, I notice yes or yes.Moreover, many times we are so obsessed that we do not realize that hypos are much more dangerous than hyper.I prefer to have 120, than to be dancing at the levels you indicate (70-90) since at least exercise or spend some time without eating, fixed downturn.When you are more wax of the hypos, you have to eat something, because you don't know how much glucose can last you.

The body in terms of blood glucose, has short -term memory.Which means, then that if a person has had in 3 or 4 days above 140, in that it is at normal levels, the body assumes it as a loss of glucose, and it can be perfectly in 100. It also happens that ifThese between 70-100, until it is not a severe hypo (40-50) you will not notice anything, since the previous levels do not warn the body of a loss of substantial glucose.

I have not suffered a hypo without symptoms, but we go one of the clearest ones that I have, perhaps the one that warns me before, is that the things that are bright, (mobile, PC screen, TV or night lights on the road)They usually shine more than normal and sometimes bother me.Then come the desire to eat desperately, then tremors and finally, sweat cold.So far I have not noticed dizziness.

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aaandres
04/29/2015 12:49 p.m.

Mandril, it is clear that you must be very young and that you should not have children.
To say that a diabetic kid has died because of him for partying is disgusting.And coming from another diabetic, much more.
I will see that the parents of this boy do not follow this forum and have not read your comment.If not, I hope you apologize for your youth.

For my part, from now on, I will pass your comments.I am not interested, at least until matures.
All the best.

Padre de Andrés, 17 años. Debut: septiembre de 2011.
Levemir (30ud. mañana y 24ud. noche) y Novorapid (en desayuno, comida, merienda y cena 40ud aprox - 24HC/día).
Medidor continuo DEXCOM G4 desde julio 2014
Hemo: 6.2 (Sept. 2013), 7.0 (Dic. 2013), 6.9 (Marzo 2014), 6,6 (Junio 2014), 6,7 (Sept. 2014), 7,0 (Dic. 2014), 7,7 (Mar 2015), 6,9 (Jul. 2015), 7,0 (Sept 2015), 7,4 (Dic 2015), 6,8 (Mar 2016), 6,6 (Julio 2016), 6,8 (Octubre2016)... 7,0 (Mar 2018)

  
Mandril88
04/29/2015 1:15 p.m.

aaandres said:
mandril, it is clear that you must be very young and that you should not have children.
To say that a diabetic kid has died because of him for partying is disgusting.And coming from another diabetic, much more.
I will see that the parents of this boy do not follow this forum and have not read your comment.If not, I hope you apologize for your youth.

For my part, from now on, I will pass your comments.I am not interested, at least until matures.
Greetings.

Thank you for my comments to pass by someone who has no Lexico context.At no time have I said his guilt.I have said that being diabetic you have to be more forecast and act more carefully.I have never said that he has died because of him, more than anything because the fault was of the people who saw him "sleeping" and not wake up.Or the driver who did not check if someone was on the bus.But that is partly responsible, yes.Nobody is measured between meals to see how it goes?

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Mandril88
04/29/2015 1:25 p.m.

gala said:
What easy to diagnose?Yes, I agree
Easy to treat ???If it were easy to treat we all trend the perfect hemoglobin and most do not move between 4-6 precisely that they are the recommended values.
And what teaching you to handle insulin and eat?The luck you have with the doctor and the educator that touches you ...

I am a little enough to explain what every phrase that I say means:
Easy to treat - Does anyone have to juggle your diabetes?If yes, it is doing it wrong or is not constant.I know it's not 2 + 2, but I don't have to be like a celiac person either, being pending at all times and diminishing my diet.It is about being constant and not having glucose peaks, both hypos and hyper, if they have frequently, turn off and let's go.
They teach you to handle insulin - at no time have I said to teach you well to handle insulin.They explain that it is insulin, the theme of the bolis, and they tell you what are the units and carbohydrates (which I know, few diabetics before suffering the disease knew that they were hydrates).
The third point is the most important and the one you have skipped - with rehearsal and error, you handle your disease as your body accepts it (here I want to say that they leave your free will to start driving you, many times with misinformation orNot having very clear things, so I indicate essay and error)

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Gala
04/29/2015 1:37 p.m.

Mandril If you want to get pregnant and spend a pregnancy you have to be in those figures, if not the child can have many problems so yes, you have to be juggling, both for the hyper (in a pregnant (140 is hyperglycemia) and by thehiccup.

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DiabetesForo
04/29/2015 1:50 p.m.

Mandril88 do you say that HIV treatments are palliative ????Do you say that a undeECTABLE person can infect other people with the virus ???Look, I think you have no idea what you are talking about ................ Really inform yourself.You say: "AIDS every day is becoming more a chronic disease with which you can live many years" one thing is AIDS and another thing is HIV, it is considered that a person has AIDS when he develops an opportunistic disease and his CD4 countIt is less than 200, in that case the treatment is changed and it is already.Please mandril88 I think that to comment on certain diseases you must inform yourself and not speak for speaking, I advise you to go to a health center or ask for an appointment with internal medicine or failing that with an infectious specialist.Thus you will leave doubts and clarify many ideas and terms, also the treatments called Tar no longer have side effects.A person who takes their CD4 count can reach 1100 with an undetectable viral load less than 20 copies, so the immune system does not suffer.So Mandril88 seriously stops consulting Google and get false information that is limited to putting information does not need and without updating and informing with a specialist.

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Mandril88
04/29/2015 1:55 p.m.

gala said:
mandril if you wanthyper (in a pregnant (140 is hyperglycemia) as for the hypo.

When I refer to juggling, I mean people who get up to 200, without breakfast they are punctured to correct, then hiccup, they do not punish because they had hiccups, and so on the day, with rebounds.As we all know, it is about not doing the prawn and not having those peaks, since they affect and very seriously to health.It is better to have a 6.5 hemo and not have hypos, than to have a hem of 5, 6 and have frequent cases of hypos.
According to my endocrine, more than 2 cases a week of Hip, is that something I'm doing wrong.And I repeat, it is better to avoid hyper than hyper, clear studies say that the lack of blood glucose degenerates the brain cells much faster, than anything else, including alcohol intake.This means that a diabetic person with enough hypos in his life has all the ballots of suffering from Alzheimer's.
Apart from that if you are always touching the downward limits, it would cost you more to notice the symptoms of hypoglycemia.

It is clear that it is a disease, that insulin is not the panacea, but not advisable not to treat it or not to accept it and deny a reality that since they diagnose it, you have in your life, as the article says.

By the way, in case of hypos, corregis with insulin when you eat hydrates?I usually correct when I do not take the glucose gel, that is, when Coca Cola.I usually take some liquid with sugar to climb, at 5 min something with slower hydratros to stabilize, and correct with a downward unit.

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Gala
04/29/2015 2:14 p.m.

Of course, we must not have hypoglycemia that we have all of us all but I repeat that for a sorry you have to be around those figures, no matter how good your endo who is a pregnant and premmed more import more, below 6. And you ask himTo the pregnancy of the ups and downs with the hormones if they are doing wrong ...

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Mandril88
04/29/2015 2:24 p.m.

Salvador said:
mandril88 do you say that HIV treatments are palliative ????Do you say that a undeECTABLE person can infect other people with the virus ???Look, I think you have no idea what you are talking about ................ Really inform yourself.You say: "AIDS every day is becoming more a chronic disease with which you can live many years" one thing is AIDS and another thing is HIV, it is considered that a person has AIDS when he develops an opportunistic disease and his CD4 countIt is less than 200, in that case the treatment is changed and it is already.Please mandril88 I think that to comment on certain diseases you must inform yourself and not speak for speaking, I advise you to go to a health center or ask for an appointment with internal medicine or failing that with an infectious specialist.Thus you will leave doubts and clarify many ideas and terms, also the treatments called Tar no longer have side effects.A person who takes their CD4 count can reach 1100 with an undetectable viral load less than 20 copies, so the immune system does not suffer.So Mandril88 seriously stops consulting Google and get false information that is limited to putting information does not need and without updating and informing with a specialist.

A person can be a carrier of HIV, without having symptoms and infecting another person.

From the first moment a person is infected with HIV, there is a pathological process, an infection that wants to evolve.The virus is active from day one, which means a constant battle between the immune system and HIV.

In the long term, the virus intends to end the body's defensive capacity, not only of HIV but of any other infection.It is called AIDS to the last stage of the disease, in which the human defensive system is so deteriorated that the so -called opportunistic diseases appear.

HIV: human immunodeficiency virus that weakens the body's immune system

AIDS: Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome is an advanced state of HIV infection, which appears signs and symptoms of the disease when a severe immunosuppression happens.

That is, HIV is an incurable disease for now, therefore when one has AIDS it means that HIV disease is advanced, because it has degenerated the s.ImmuneAnd with respect to opportunistic diseases, I remind you, that until recentBetter, but not ceasing to be a more deadly disease than diabetes.Without a doubt, go.
Apart from that, if you want us to talk about another diseases for me without problem, but this forum is mainly diabetes, that other diseases such as examples have been mentioned, the main issue should not be diverted.

Gala - and you also tell adolescents, or any diabetic person, either by stress, a cold, or anything else, it also affects hormones, it is not necessary to be a woman and be pregnant so that glucose levelsfluctuen.Another thing is that you are aware of what you have, and what you should do to correct as well as possible, sometimes right and sometimes not, but it is about having a good average.

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DiabetesForo
04/29/2015 2:28 p.m.

Mandril 88 I am speechless hahaha, you are right, this forum is diabetes, not other chronic diseases.

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Gala
04/29/2015 3:08 p.m.

You are reasoning yourself, it is not "simple" for anyone.Diabetes is not 2+2 = 4 What is a good time that I try to explain, that you have to be very aware if you want to be fine

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DiabetesForo
04/29/2015 3:14 p.m.

This is @gala, I still remember when I started and told me hahaha and I thought that if, they were 2+2 = 4 until I learned that sometimes they are 2+2 = depends

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Mandril88
04/29/2015 3:42 p.m.

gala said:
You are right, it is not "simple" for anyone.Diabetes is not 2+2 = 4 What is what hax go a while I try to explain that you have to be very aware if you want

And being aware of how you are not simple?Do you have to do a master to understand how you have to act according to the moment?
Throughout the thread I have said a thousand times that when I say simple, it means that if you do not do the goat, which does not have to affect anything.That is just pricking insulin.Spot.It is not like a cancer, with chemos, radios, recovery therapies, vomiting, and endless impediments.It is simply insulin.I do not speak of long -term consequences, I do not speak of what you have to take into account for the administration of insulin.Not to mention, that each one is older to do what they want.Then I am to see people who have not taken care of and say they have complications.Medicine gives us everything you can.And he tells me otherwise lies.It is clear that pharmaceutics want to make money, but I assure you that many of the scientists who are with them have mothers, fathers, sons or daughters with this disease, and I assure you that they do what they can take for something as soon as possible.

Salvador said:
mandril88 I am speechless hahaha, you are right, this forum is diabetes, not other chronic diseases.

Correct, when I have said that AIDS is becoming chronic disease, it means that it is no longer deadNot as before.

Recall, two types of diseases, acute (short duration) and chronic (long duration or life)

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