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3 out of 10 diabetics do not accept to suffer from the disease

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No, for me it is not so simple to be the 24h pending sugar and still being well controlled.
But that I already give the matter by setback, for some it is easy to have the controlled sugar, as for you that you have that luck, for others I will not continue with this Rife Rafe that does not reach anywhere

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04/29/2015 3:58 p.m.

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Insulin treatment is high risk.That is enough to have a complicated life.

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04/29/2015 4:12 p.m.

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I have been in diabetes for 18 years and I already notice from 80 ....
Diabetic people have to control a lot and much more!Partying.

@aaandres don't look for the cat 3 feet.

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04/29/2015 4:16 p.m.

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AGAIL88 said:

"Correct, when I have said that AIDS is becoming chronic disease, it means, that it is no longer deadly, as in the 80s, but now you can extend the person's life or even die of another causenot as before. "

And hitting the AIDS Uncle, that AIDS itself is not a disease, it is a state in which you enter and leave it, it is said that a person has AIDS because their CD4 level is less than 200 CD4,When that happens, the tar is changed and leaves that state.You must go to inform you of a specialist doctor in this case to infectious (internal medicine)

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mandril88 said:
It is clear that it is a disease, that insulin is not the panacea, but not advisable not to treat it or not accept it and deny a reality that since they diagnose it, you haveIn your life, as the article says.If you are type1 and do not treat yourself with insulin you die, there you don't need to accept or deny anything.

mandril88 said:
and being aware of how you are not simple?Do you have to do a master to understand how you have to act according to the moment?
Throughout the thread I have said a thousand times that when I say simple, it means that if you do not do the goat, which does not have to affect anything.That is just pricking insulin.Spot.It is not like a cancer, with chemos, radios, recovery therapies, vomiting, and endless impediments.It is simply insulin.

Are you sure you are diabetic and you are not a troll or a student of something related?I say it because this is what people who are not diabetics usually think, that diabetes is just to put insulin and already.And if you have problems it is because you have not taken care of yourself.

And diabetes is much harder than just clicking "insulin", that's the easiest thing, it is difficult to know how much you have to prick a million variables (quantity and type of food, absorption speed, exercise, stress, position of the stars ...) so that you do not go up or do not get too much.We constantly live in the tightrope, under the sword of Damocles of complications and hypos and we are practically blind.And you say it's just insulin !!!!.

mandril88 said:
Then it clashes to see people who have not taken care of and say they have complications.

Another typical thought of those who are not diabetic, "if something happened to him is because he did not take care of enough."And I would tell you that 99% of type1 diabetics are very careful and instead more than half of them will have long -term complications.(If they do not get a cure before) of course if you do not take care of yourself, of that 50% probability will go to almost 100% probability.But most types1 that I have met with complications were taken care of everything they could.So stop saying these fallacies.

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04/29/2015 5:13 p.m.

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@Mandril88 said:

"And being aware of how you are not simple? You have to do a master to understand how you have to act according to the moment?"

Do you think it is very easy to be diabetic, do you think that is pending?What do you say about a type 1 diabetic person who only prescribes 3 strips a day to control his glucose ???

Look, my mother has been diabetic for more than 15 years, the same rhythm continues, that is, breakfast eats and dinner always the same, the same portions, the same insulin is put and I can assure you that every day they are not the same, a few daysThis lower, other days is higher and there are never 2 equal days, a nights of the early morning enters night hypoglycemia and other nights in hyperglycemia and now I ask you: how can my mother control her diabetes if she only has 3 glucose stripsFor each day ???Do you buy me the boxes of strips and send them to my house ???My mother suffered almost a year ago a hypoglycemia of the most serious, fallen by hypoglycemiia with pneumotorax + 3 broken ribs, do you mean that day my mother did not control sugar ??????How do you dare to say that if a diabetic has complications, is it because it is not taken care of ????Come on a man, don't say ridicules, if you are so expert in diabetes that you do that you are not in a hospital ????God free me that you are an endocrine, since if you were .... come on, you did not prescribe or insulin, you wouldThe mouth went to run ........ aaaa and what do you say about asymptomatic diabetics ?????They don't take care of right ????Of course they have no symptoms do not have diabetes ... my mother, God free me that you are endocrine and if you are, what a patience your patients should have ......

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Hello, I do not accept diabetes, no matter how milonga they tell me that "you can get along" (of course, I speak of type I "aggressive" diabetes, nothing of type II that honestly ... overwhelm a "grandmother"Because he has blood glucose to 160, well .... Come on, that type II is" a pussto "grandfather" with high glucose and that has to go for a walk to lower it).

Diabetes for me is the torture of the "Malaysian drop" .... every day ... you undermine you physically and psychologically.And the one who denies that is that he is very touched (in my view, eye).And apart from Gota Malaya ... it is the sword of Damocles that we also have every day (and that frequently falls on us with good curtains of many types, hypers, hypos)

Thanks to a continuous measurement (which the SS refuses to pay) you can live denying the "major" quite well (more or less as someone who is "half slave").Still it is hard, but it is much more bearable (if "you pay", you "forget" diabetes).

Anyway, talking about these issues I understand that it will be very delicate, especially for parents.Thing that I understand, and I understand your hyper-mega-surface attitude here nothing happens.But it happens.What happens is that in this situation - I am also a father - we want the best for our children, and we blind ourselves (normal), after all the children of each one are the most handsome, beautiful, intelligent, sympathetic ....

In short, I am of that 30% that does not accept it, clearly.I don't give up.With continuous measurement I have seen that it is possible to make a comb to diabetes (although it returns some ... but before, I did it every day).I have always said it ... They say that the important thing is not to win a battle, if not the war ... because in diabetes, the war is lost from the beginning, we have to win battles and not aspire to more ....

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04/29/2015 10:27 p.m.

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sherpa41 said:
mandril88 said:
is clear that it is a disease, that insulin is not the panacea, but not advisable not to treat it or notAccept it and deny a reality that since they diagnose it, you have in your life, as the article says.If you are type1 and do not treat yourself with insulin you die, there you don't need to accept or deny anything.

mandril88 said:
mandril88 said:
and being aware of how you are not simple?Do you have to do a master to understand how you have to act according to the moment?
Throughout the thread I have said a thousand times that when I say simple, it means that if you do not do the goat, which does not have to affect anything.That is just pricking insulin.Spot.It is not like a cancer, with chemos, radios, recovery therapies, vomiting, and endless impediments.It is simply insulin.

Are you sure you are diabetic and you are not a troll or a student of something related?I say it because this is what people who are not diabetics usually think, that diabetes is just to put insulin and already.And if you have problems it is because you have not taken care of yourself.

And diabetes is much harder than just clicking "insulin", that's the easiest thing, it is difficult to know how much you have to prick a million variables (quantity and type of food, absorption speed, exercise, stress, position of the stars ...) so that you do not go up or do not get too much.We constantly live in the tightrope, under the sword of Damocles of complications and hypos and we are practically blind.And you say it's just insulin !!!!.

mandril88 said:
mandril88 said:
Then it clashes to see people who have not taken care of and say they have complications.

Another typical thought of those who are not diabetic, "if something happened to him is because he did not take care of enough."And I would tell you that 99% of type1 diabetics are very careful and instead more than half of them will have long -term complications.(If they do not get a cure before) of course if you do not take care of yourself, of that 50% probability will go to almost 100% probability.But most types1 that I have met with complications were taken care of everything they could.So stop saying these fallacies.

And what does the article say, illustrated?That people with diabetes do not accept it.Spot.You can tell me mass, pray the rosary and have the aligned stars.The fact is that I do not understand how a person who tells him that he has a disease does not accept his new condition.

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@mandril88 said:

"And being aware of how you are not simple? You have to do a master to understand how you have to act according to the moment?"

Do you think it is very easy to be diabetic, do you think that is pending?What do you say about a type 1 diabetic person who only prescribes 3 strips a day to control his glucose ???

Look, my mother has been diabetic for more than 15 years, the same rhythm continues, that is, breakfast eats and dinner always the same, the same portions, the same insulin is put and I can assure you that every day they are not the same, a few daysThis lower, other days is higher and there are never 2 equal days, a nights of the early morning enters night hypoglycemia and other nights in hyperglycemia and now I ask you: how can my mother control her diabetes if she only has 3 glucose stripsFor each day ???Do you buy me the boxes of strips and send them to my house ???My mother suffered almost a year ago a hypoglycemia of the most serious, fallen by hypoglycemiia with pneumotorax + 3 broken ribs, do you mean that day my mother did not control sugar ??????How do you dare to say that if a diabetic has complicationsIs it why don't you take care of ????Come on a man, don't say ridicules, if you are so expert in diabetes that you do that you are not in a hospital ????God free me that you are an endocrine, since if you were .... come on, you did not prescribe or insulin, you wouldThe mouth went to run ........ aaaa and what do you say about asymptomatic diabetics ?????They don't take care of right ????Of course they have no symptoms do not have diabetes ... my mother, God free me that you are endocrine and if you are, what a patience your patients should have ...

I speak to you from Spain.Here the reactive strips give them handwritten or at least in Madrid.If I only have 3 strips a day, I would try to eat anything that had hydrates or at most a unit and not use fast insulin.Without exaggeration I can measure up to 10 or 12 times a day, and those days that I don't have the rare glucose.

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Salvador said:
Mandail88 said:

"Correct, when I have said that AIDS is becoming chronic disease, it means, that it is no longer deadly, as in the 80s, but now you can extend the person's life or even die of another causenot as before. "

And hitting the AIDS Uncle, that AIDS itself is not a disease, it is a state in which you enter and leave it, it is said that a person has AIDS because their CD4 level is less than 200 CD4,When that happens, the tar is changed and leaves that state.You must go to inform you of a specialist doctor in this case to infectious (internal medicine)

HIV: human immunodeficiency virus that weakens the body's immune system

AIDS: Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome is an advanced state of HIV infection, which appears signs and symptoms of the disease when a severe immunosuppression happens.

I put it in another comment, my failure for disease and not a state of the disease.As you understand it is difficult for me to take 5 people at the same time, that the only thing they do is read and understand what they want.

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04/29/2015 10:32 p.m.
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I was waiting for you in this thread, heh Je !!;)
Well, here it seems that they do not respect the opinions, those who think that this diabetes is not easy seems to be that we are all bitter ...

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04/29/2015 10:33 p.m.

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I do not use continuous measurement ... I click on me about 10 times a day hehehe

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04/29/2015 10:36 p.m.

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gala said:
I was waiting for you in this thread, heh !!;)
Well, here it seems that they do not respect the opinions, those who think that this diabetes is not easy seems to be that we are all bitter ...

But who has said it is easy ???We read what the Real wins.Seriously, a little written understanding would come from fable.

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04/29/2015 10:39 p.m.
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I do not care easy as that you have said, that it is a very simple disease, of easy treatment and bearable because it does not prevent you from anything and if it is not the fault of oneself that does not do things well ....
Reele your mesages that are yours

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04/29/2015 10:53 p.m.

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gala said:
I don't care easy as what you have said, that it is a very simple disease, of easy treatment and bearable because it does not prevent you from anything and if it is not soIt is the fault of oneself that does not do things right ...
Reele your mesages that are yours

Definition:
Simple
1.
Which is formed by a single element, and not composed of several.
Synonyms: simple
Antonyms: compound
2.
Which is purely what is said, without any special or singular characteristic.
Easy
Which is understood, does or achieves with little effort, ability or intelligence.
2.
That occurs without excessive effort.

At no time have I said it is easy.It is simple, simple, simple.

That I know, it is easy to treat, another thing is the complexity to apply that treatment, but the treatment is easy (see definition).Or do you tell me that treatment (use of insulin) is complicated?I repeat, written written understanding, treatment is easy, because you do not require 20 medications, you are diabetic, or insulin or pill, there are no 50 variants.Complex treatment application.It is not 2+2, you have to have many variables to be able to apply the treatment well, therefore application of the complex treatment.Disease treatment, simple.

It is bearable because you make normal life, you eat, you run, sleep, you do what the real wins.Tell someone who has bone cancer than if accompanied to a marathon.Tell someone who is paraplegic to go with you to you.Another thing is as I said, it's how you get it, if you can't make normal life, it's because you're doing something wrong.

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We speak in a few years, that you have been very little in this and surely think in another way, ... and if you measure everything so accurate and so literal you will give you Bruces with a 2+2 are not four

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04/29/2015 11:09 p.m.

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gala said:
we talk within a few years, which you have been very little about this and surely think otherwise, ... and if everything measured it so exact and so literal you will give you about BrucesWith a 2+2 there are not four

I have put it about 3 times already in this thread, with insulin, 2 + 2 are not 4. Many variables, many factors to take into account.I still think that we do not know how to read, or we read what he wants

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04/29/2015 11:17 p.m.
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Yes, yes, whatever you say, for you the fat dog

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04/29/2015 11:22 p.m.

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I believe that the word is not acceptance, but resignation.And because there is no other.

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04/29/2015 11:29 p.m.

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Normal life?You run?Do you sleep?
There will always be people in worse situation, if that comforts us (you already know the saying, misfortune of many consolation of fools).Worse is the one in "La Caja".But from there to say "normal life."Being diabetic is almost "a profession", and I would say "autonomous" (24 hours a day).
Normal life you can not do ... that falls from drawer, you can try to "seem" as normal as possible, but it will never be "normal" (like a person who does not suffer from any disease, many by the way).

I have thought at some point that a diabetic cannot be "perroflauta", something as simple and absurd as that have you raised it?It doesn't matter just by a forest, living under a bridge and admiring the landscape, philosophizing, forgetting all material things, eating - if you can - and if you can't eat, because you don't eat, that nothing happens either ... thanSimple, one with the company of a dog, nothing more is needed! And we cannot.Of course, this may not be "normal life", and "normal life" is what we can do.

The life of the diabetic is "hard" and different, of "normal" nothing.The long term for a diabetic is 3 hours (sometimes 2 or less), thinking beyond that requires "normal" planning.

By the way, there are insulin-dependent diabetics with declared disability and admitted by the SS, so that normal, we are not "" neither for the doctors themselves and health system (and that now they do almost nothing, nor to people with other diseases-disabilities) ...

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04/29/2015 11:30 p.m.

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Pabloj2000 said:
normal life?You run?Do you sleep?
There will always be people in worse situation, if that comforts us (you already know the saying, misfortune of many consolation of fools).Worse is the one in "La Caja".But from there to say "normal life."Being diabetic is almost "a profession", and I would say "autonomous" (24 hours a day).
Normal life you can not do ... that falls from drawer, you can try to "seem" as normal as possible, but it will never be "normal" (like a person who does not suffer from any disease, many by the way).

I have thought at some point that a diabetic cannot be "perroflauta", something as simple and absurd as that have you raised it?It doesn't matter just by a forest, living under a bridge and admiring the landscape, philosophizing, forgetting all material things, eating - if you can - and if you can't eat, because you don't eat, that nothing happens either ... thanSimple, one with the company of a dog, nothing more is needed! And we cannot.Of course, this may not be "normal life", and "normal life" is what we can do.

The life of the diabetic is "hard" and different, of "normal" nothing.The long term for a diabetic is 3 hours (sometimes 2 or less), thinking beyond that requires "normal" planning.

By the way, there are insulin-dependent diabetics with declared disability and admitted by the SS, so that normal, we are not "" neither for the doctors themselves and health system (and that now they do almost nothing, nor to people with other diseases-disabilities) ...

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But what do you understand by normal?I understand for normal life do the same as a person who has no disease.The example of the flute dog, preciously it would not be a normal life, but come on, if it is for you, the example is taken with tweezers.

And with respect to the declared minusvalia, they only give it to you when you have diabetes and some compliance derived from it, if you are only insulin -dependent, you can cross your arms.

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