3 out of 10 diabetics do not accept to suffer from the disease

mandril88 said:
and what does the article say, enlightened?That people with diabetes do not accept it.Spot.

I illustrate you:
1- The article is from Mexico not from Spain.If in Spain we have problems with the material Imagine.
2-Refers to diabetes in general, I always specify type1.Older people are a separate case.Many say what I have left of life ...

mandril88 said:
I speak to you from Spain.Here the reactive strips give them handwritten or at least in Madrid.If I only have 3 strips a day, I would try to eat anything that had hydrates or at most a unit and not use fast insulin.Without exaggeration I can measure up to 10 or 12 times a day, and those days that I don't have the rare glucose.

Salvador is also from Spain (I think), and in my autonomous community they also give 3 strips to type 1. And if you give you all those you want will be because you are young and recently you have debuted but calm, wait a fewyears and you will go to 3 strips as it is going on to almost all in most communities.

mandril88 said:
The fact is that I do not understand how a person who tells him that he has a disease does not accept his new condition.

I have been talking in forums for 20 years and knowing diabetics and there are only two types of people who may not follow the treatment, adolescents in the highest phase of their rebellion that is usually something specific, and older people with type 2 who are aCase totally apart.If that 30% that says the article removes type 2 diabetics that form the immense majority of diabetics you stay in a percentage of types 1 that do not follow the absolutely ridiculous treatment well, if we also transfer it to Spain

And you also say in another post that the treatment "is simple because it is composed of a single element."That is false because you have a minimum elements to treat diabetes, insulin and glucose, and you must keep them in a perfect and almost impossible balance to achieve.The work of a pancreas must replace oneself.

I have not insulted you forgive, I affirm what you have written, written as you do.
Arguments I have many and we could continue like this to infinity but I sincerely believe that it is a wast

@Gala I have been 18 years .. I think that mandril88 carries 3. I think the same as ... is control, take it as well as possible, click and voila.
I have been controlled as my complications's ass.
And for me diabetes is simpler than for example my mother -in -law is now operating stomach reduction .... that is a whore.

Yes, if it is the control in that we all agree on what we are not in this way is that it is simple, there will be people to whom it is simple, that all things work as they should be like you or mandril, but toothers not, for the configuration of the stars as Paul says or for whatever, for example the day I am at home I go like a clock but when I am working that shoots in a way .. if I show you the graphs ofDexcom would alucinar with how fast the sugar can rise, the stress that the cortisol triggers?The moon ??And I am to blame because I don't do things right?Well, I throw myself all morning pending it with which if it limits me because I cannot do my job as I should be aware of the sugar there are many things to complicate diabetes so we say that we do not seem simple to us

vandorta said:
@gala I have been 18 years .. I think @mandril88 carries 3. I think the same as ... it is control, carry it as well as possible, click and ready.
I have been controlled as my complications's ass.
And for me diabetes is simpler than for example my mother -in
That in your specific case the complications are according to you to have controlled you badly, it is an anecdotal fact that should be privately because it induces to blame people who are already having a bad time.And it is that the immense majority of type1 diabetics in Spain that have complications we have even been controlled as well as we could.

And do not compare, if your mother -in -law is reduced the stomach will have a complicated operation but if everything goes well then you will not have to worry anymore.

mandril88 said:

Pabloj2000 said:
normal life?You run?Do you sleep?
There will always be people in worse situation, if that comforts us (you already know the saying, misfortune of many consolation of fools).Worse is the one in "La Caja".But from there to say "normal life."Being diabetic is almost "a profession", and I would say "autonomous" (24 hours a day).
Normal life you can not do ... that falls from drawer, you can try to "seem" as normal as possible, but it will never be "normal" (like a person who does not suffer from any disease, many by the way).

I have thought at some point that a diabetic cannot be "perroflauta", something as simple and absurd as that have you raised it?It doesn't matter just by a forest, living under a bridge and admiring the landscape, philosophizing, forgetting all material things, eating - if you can - and if you can't eat, because you don't eat, that nothing happens either ... thanSimple, one with the company of a dog, nothing more is needed! And we cannot.Of course, this may not be "normal life", and "normal life" is what we can do.

The life of the diabetic is "hard" and different, of "normal" nothing.The long term for a diabetic is 3 hours (sometimes 2 or less), thinking beyond that requires "normal" planning.

By the way, there are insulin-dependent diabetics with declared disability and admitted by the SS, so that normal, we are not "" neither for the doctors themselves and health system (and that now they do almost nothing, nor to people with other diseases-disabilities) ...

greetings

But what do you understand by normal?I understand for normal life do the same as a person who has no disease.The example of the flute dog, preciously it would not be a normal life, but come on, if it is for you, the example is taken with tweezers.

And with respect to the declared minusvalia, they only give it to you when you have diabetes and some compliance derived from it, if you are only insulin -dependent, you can cross your arms.

Well, normal "life" is to do what a flute dog does (because it will not be "normal"? Why "normal" is what we do? Who says "Flute dog" says "throwing to the adventure" without knowingNeither where you sleep, nor when you eat, neither ... a sabbatical year touring lonely and inhospitable places, by bicycle, in motorcycle ... but it is a "simple" example, too simple (and we cannot do, because certain things do notThey can be planned, nor can you take half supermarket on a bag as we do).

There will be people who do not know another life (from a very young age), but if even twenty -twenty you make "normal" life and suddenNothing (here was "normal", now you can not do anything you did and how you did).It is an end, clear and concise point.A before and after.Bestial.

If you can have type I diabetes without complications of it, and with disability, but come from years ago (eye, disability means 33% or more, because you can have 33% and recognized disability, and 32% and have almost the same disability, but not recognized).Because it is an insulin-dependent diabetic of entry, they will give you 20-25% to this day (I tell you for my experience), which legally does not help you, but the figure is there (they "recognize it", but notto take advantage of its advantages).Right now with the crisis they have closed the tap - and what will have to do with the crisis with having a disability, I say ....- (But before, there are people with it granted)

But well, each one decides if he makes life "normal" or not., Because what for some is normal life, for others it is not.I doI miss my "normal" life when I was healthy.And a lot.I don't know if it was normal ... but that was life! And nobody will convince me that everything remains the same, it would be ridiculous.

greetings

PS: When we ourselves have discussions of whether you can make normal or not ... it is simply that we do not try, or think that it is "normal" is quite subjective ... as you well comment ... a person withA much more serious disease will think that it is not only normal, but very good).But if we start from a healthy person (ourselves if we were before), there is no normal life before, and normal life later., At least for me.We adapt and point, we do not do what we want, when we want and how we want (sleep, eat, etc ...).As Regina says ... resignation, is what there is ...

Hello everyone, I see that this issue is raising passions, and has generated an interesting debate, I ask you to also be respectful, review the forum rules and what you have written, remember that we are all here to help us, that each oneHaving your opinion is good, we don't have to be 100% agree, each diabetes is different, and everyone lives as you want or can.

Please respect each other and meet the rules, it would be very good if you could reread the comments you have made and correct what may be offensive to others or that breaches the rules.

This afternoon we will review the theme with the moderation team and apply the forum standards.

@Madril88 said: I speak to you from Spain.Here the reactive strips give them handwritten or at least in Madrid.If I only have 3 strips a day, I would try to eat anything that had hydrates or at most a unit and not use fast insulin.Without exaggeration I can measure up to 10 or 12 times a day, and those days that I don't have the rare glucose.

Well, my mother is from Spain, specifically Andalucia, and they don't give us the strips to be handful

I think you have to differentiate if we talk about type 1 or type 2 diabetes, dependingThat setting up a "chicken" because they only gave me for 1 strip a day, until they did not identify the problem, there was no way ... now no 6-7 per average day.

@fer

My mother type 1, and I assure you that until less than a year ago they only facilitated 3 strips a day, in root of what happened to us about 8 months and after fighting and fighting and putting claims, talking with medical inspection etc.......... we could get 6 strips a day, condition: it depends on the month, not every month they prescribe 6 strips.A few months they prescribe 4 another 5 and another 6, and when we ask the head doctor tells us: The month that is best are 4 strips, the month that is bad are 6 strips ...............

I swear I have always accepted my diabetes, but I was much happier without it. And comparing diseases is hateful, each one has enough with what it touches.The issue is that it is not an easy disease, and that when you are more controlled, the more you approach Normoglycemia, more risks of hypoglycemia you have.that it is what seems dangerous to me. And I hope that my daughter who also has type 1 diabetes and is ten years old can go out in her adolescence and take a glass and stick some dances, like all her friends, and she is not like a nunof closing. And if something happens to her, she will not have wanted it, because this is something that has come to us.He perceives and has fallen twice in a coma, without counting a day that he wanted to throw down the terrace because he did not know where he was. These situations occur, and sometimes they are independent of what you take care of or not. I just diagnosed was a student,My mother made me food and I just had to think how much I put on me ... Fácil, easy.Tetris for diabetes.Sometimes it exhausts me mentally. A thing is to accept, a very different one that is easy

Salvador said:
... only facilitated 3 strips a day ........ we could get 6 strips a day ...

@Salvador, it seems amazing, the doctor or bureaucrat who put this rule would have to be type 1 diabetic, if I could infect it ... aaaaaix ... that little know some of what it is to live with diabetes, in my case 6Or 7 strips a day already seemed shortly before having the Dexcom, now, I don't even want to think about it, at this point, social security would already have to be facilitating continuous glucose meters to all.

@Fer, I agree with you, you can't imagine what I fight for 6 miserable strips, and they were granted after the pneumorax last year to the hiccup.

fer said:
Alicia Cedeño Luna, family doctor of the Family Medicine Unit No. 2 of the Mexican Social Security Institute (IMSS) commented that approximately 3 out of 10 diabetics do not accept that they suffer from thisdisease, which causes them to deteriorate slowly putting their health at risk.

Hello, I entered this forum today, and what caught my attention before the rest.It is this issue of not accepting the disease.

I don't know why it happened to me, I was changing diabetologists, going to see endocrinologists, in different sanatoriums of Rosario, because I did not want to listen to the word diabetes, I wanted them to tell me "it is metabolic syndrome, it is resistance to insulia", less that word thatToday I incorporated.

My diagnosis is recent, 20 days ago I had symptoms but I thought it was Stress and I did not go to the doctor, now little by little I try to adapt, what costs me is to have that poster of "Diabetics".

I am 37 years old and two children, I have the support of my husband, and I am accepting everything and paying attention to the medical indications for myself and my family. Thank you to read.

Hi @mery, you see that you are not a unique and isolated case, rather, there are many people who have a hard time accepting it, and others that are very difficult for them to live with it, it is also true that there are many cases that assume itnormally and coexist with diabetes maintaining a very normal lifestyle.

What type of diabetes do you have?

fer said:

Salvador said:
... only facilitated 3 strips a day ........ we could get 6 strips a day a day...

In my case 6 or 7 strips a day I seemed shortly before having the Dexcom, now, I do not want to think about it, at this point, Social Security would already have to be facilitating continuous glucose meters to all.

I fully agree, to me, "we can" to power, instead of the 600 euros of life income for every Spanish with which the Dexcom pays me, I give myself with a song in my teeth :)

And what you say, give for a question ... Users of Dexcom, what would happen to the strips if you have to stop using the continuous meter?In my case-after some discussion with the inspector on duty-the 6-7 strips before the Dexcom were insufficient (they had to "trust" in the pharmacy many times boxes of strips ... and well, on occasion that I was going15 days abroad, erre that they did not give me because they did not touch me ...) later they gave me what I needed, "If now left the Dexcom, I think that 15-16 strips a day is what I would spend (each one knows their conditions, their life, their work, stress, etc ...), surely because I would have to manually make the trends (that is,, take a measure ... and at 10 minutes another ... which would not be very reliable given the "party" that are the glucometers -another discovered thanks to the dexcom-).

Come on, to put the continuous medication at once that would also save in the short, medium and long term.But as long as there are interests in the "strips", so we will continue.Let's see if Abbott that is also involved in the "garlic" of the strips, begins to put the free (or better the Navigator II directly for those who need real continuous measurement).

greetings

@Salvador I live in Tenerife and they give me strips those who want the same that insulin ... to give and give away

It is curious but I have never seen my diabetes as a chronic disease , I have always seen it as one more aspect of my personality, such as wearing glasses, but now with my son I do see her like this, likeAn incurable disease is curious how the point of view changes.

In fact, my son's diabetes bothers me more than mine:-/

I totally agree with some ..... I feel totally identified (I am one of those k is stressed of base ... guards ...) I laugh when my endocrine when it tells me that I am starting in three shots of theBreakfast ... hahaha to wait 15 min after clicking to eat ... based on juices and correction I go.
Let's add to get pregnant, breastfeed, or get "mild", I say mild since that already affects my sugar !!!And keep working, with what that entails!
being equally productive that always or at least try, taking care of mine ..... Well, what do you want to tell you, adding stress !!!
I am one of those who are clicking when and in front of anyone ... and I am very sorry but who does not like to look !!
I try to lead a normal life!Of course I curse the day this disease came out!I would not send it to anyone ... but I will not be a lifetime by pity on how unfortunate I am.I try to look forward and enjoy what I have .... what could you have more!Of course!That envy to all those who do not have k pass what I ... Well, denying it is absurd.
But you have to adapt to what each one has and not focus so much ... is one more thing that is part of your person

Hello everyone, again, because a long time ago, and a lot, that I did not enter to comment on diabetes, but I have decided, reading some comments.
Particularly diabetes is a condemnation, first because I had never taken care of sugar so much, I do not feel them, and it is the most dangerous, but the descents are horrible, above all, because, at least, I lose a littleMemory and concentration.Luckily little happens to me.Third I puncture three times on my fingers for the four insulins that I wear.I hurt my punctures on my fingers than those of the bolis, I do not get used to, after 6 years with diabetes 1.
You cannot live normally, always weighing what is going to eat, do not forget to wear something sweet in your bag, 7 punctures a day, sometimes you do not explain why it goes up, or because it goes down, etc.etc .. And worst of all, for a sweet to me, is not being able to eat a meringue or a chucho of cream, as before, I have it fatal.Although when I get off, I take advantage.Normal life with type 1 diabetes, impossible, I at least.
There are many discomforts that are overcome, it is an annoyance, but that has to be assumed.
I mean, patience, and waiting for a day to find out the cure.