Diabox or Juggluco could spoil freestyle readings

@Sandman said:

Sherpa41said:
@Sherpa41said:

@SandmanYou have to have faith, I with the free1 I was put in my arm and they bothered me so much when I sleep, that I hated them and casually all marked me fatal.

With the free2 and free3 I discovered a place that did not crush at night, they stopped bothering me, I had a better attitude and from there all the following 50 sensors have done well (except when I used rare programs).

Where are you putting them in?

Oh and always with kinesiological tape on top, not to tear it down when my pants lower me.

@Sherpa41, unfortunately my phone spends almost 80% of the time (during the week) less than 2 meters from the sensor since work attached to it.:(

And glucometers I have 3 (the 3 of Abbott to be able to load the data in Libreview) and the differences between them is little, but much with the app. I understand that the algorithm they use is different.

As they have commented for a long time, I use them in summer to see the trend and that I have no spikes.But I did not overwhelm if you stick all day measuring 59-60.

What I have noticed is that when it reaches 53 (at least in my case) it stops, you can hit hours but if it goes down and I am measured, in that case if I act, and when I do it again it again marks a while marking 54 or 55 when I can be in 90, it is as if that value (53) were some type of top.

Sherpa41 said:
@Sherpa41 said:

@BaraddurIt is rare, those 50 of difference can give the 1st day, but then if there are no "obstacles" it fits alone.

Do you have the mobile always near and in connection with the sensor or do you leave it for a long time far or off?

That could also prevent the app fit.I have seen some case that was arranged always having it close.

And it also watches the glucometer, I have 4 and they fail a lot and also each model usually has its deviation.

That is a long time at 53, it sounds like a failure, that it has not been possible to increase well but it is rare that many do not happen to us (outside the first day).And others very often.It cannot be simple chance of bad sensors.If it were, I would be more distributed among all.

And my phone is 100% of the time less than 2 meters from the sensor.

I have 2 small powerbaks so as not to have to separate or when it is loaded.

@Sherpa41 said:

That is a long time at 53, it sounds like a failure, that it has not been possible to increase well but it is rare that many do not happen to us (outside the first day).And others very often.It cannot be simple chance of bad sensors.If it were, I would be more distributed among all.

And my phone is 100% of the time less than 2 meters from the sensor.

I have 2 small powerbaks so as not to have to separate or when it is loaded.

I don't know if with all the sensors I have used but with most yes.

@Sandman said:

@Sherpa41said:

That is a long time at 53, it sounds like a failure, that it has not been possible to increase well but it is rare that many do not happen to us (outside the first day).And others very often.It cannot be simple chance of bad sensors.If it were, I would be more distributed among all.

And my phone is 100% of the time less than 2 meters from the sensor.

I have 2 small powerbaks so as not to have to separate or when it is loaded.

That of 53 also happens to me.I thought it happened to everyone and that it was like the top that the sensor had and that he did not mark less than that.

I don't know if with all the sensors I have used but with most yes.

When a sensor is stable in 53 or less for hours, you have to return it.It is quite frequent to pass, and after a while the message of replace comes out.

With the new free series2 there is a message that says that calibration is being calibrated, or has stopped for its safety, at 15 min, asks for replacement.

It is "frequent" that is 53 or 54 the first day, the first hours while calibrating alone.

But in my 50 sensors I have never seen that outside, of that first day.

The only explanation I see (except for a very punctual bad sensor) is thatIf you use Diabox or Juggluc(as Chatgpt said)and will end up failing the sensor.

@Sherpa41 I use the sensors since 2016, uninterruptedly, they are a few more than 50, and they have only been reliable when I have inserted them, unintentionally, in capillary, at that time I mediate blood and not interstitial liquid.

If they were reliable, they would not give us glucometers for hair measures.

I do not have the mobile next to the side, nor freeLink active by Bluethooth because it active with the reader, and they fail.We fail the vast majority and it has nothing to do with Diabox.The best measure is the reader himself, for whatever, his algorithm is better defined.

In my case, I need to calibrate, until Abbott does not yield at this point, I will look for ways to adjust my glycemic state to my reality.

In the insurance they give a box of 50 every three months and say that having sensors is already too much.Luckily on Amazon the box is € 7.

And it is true that until recently the sensors were not reliable in declines, so the strips were very necessary, but for a few months they have nailed the glucometer even in very fast declines.Every day hallucino of how well the sensor is going.And every strip I spend on the glucometer already seems useless because I always get the same value as in the sensor.

But then I enter this forum and look like the world.

And he knows me badly that (possibly) because of pirate applications, many diabetics can not enjoy how much the sensors have improved lately.

Good morning..

I understand that the experiences of each are those of each one and that is indisputable, in addition to the fact that we are talking about different bodies and very different activities.

But in my specific case I will tell you that the experience tells me that the sensors are unreliable if what you want is to know the value and not the trend.And someone tells you that by personality and professional deformation always looks for a pattern in everything (until I hit me with diabetes :)).

From 2023 that I started with this until the beginning of 2025 I have used the reader that they give you with the first sensors (my mobile was not compatible and did not want to change it), and the last sensor that I use with the reader was the number 98 (in the app do not know where you can take, if anyone knows if you can appreciate indications), and I tell you that except for a couple of them that except for a couple of them.The same in all, such is the case that at the beginning I asked for replacement of all those who gave me this problem (of many have asked me to send them to study) and get to get together with more than 15 sensors at home when the replacement arrived and those of the newspaper.

But what each person said is a world.

Exact each person is a world, I would never get together with 15 sensors at home, if every four months they send me 8, I would only ask for the change if I needed, but if I see that they arrive, so I want to accumulate, to expire !!There should be more control, I think we sometimes pass and then complain

Of course, that's what I do now.

But when I started the endocrine, he told me to ask them all and as a rookie because it is what he did.

Right now I only have a couple of margin.

andrespmat said:
@Andrespmat said:

This is a world is a world, I would never get together with 15 sensors at home, if every four months they send me 8, I would only ask for change if I need it, but if I see that they arrive, so I want to accumulate, to expire !!There should be more control, I think we sometimes pass and then complain

I think you are wrong.It doesn't work that way.The Bluetooth connection is standard.Link the sensor with the phone.Both free link and juggluco or Diabox use this link.They read me simultaneously free link and juggluco (and diabox previously).From what I have seen in other users is normal.And about why we should use free link ... My readings with free link go direct to my endocrine and header doctor.

j said:
@j said:

If you want to receive glucose values through Bluetooth in LibreLink, you should not use the Juggluco sensor.
It is not that the sensor goes wrong, but it is absolutely impossible to receive any glucose value of the sensor after having scanned the minstory sensor. The sensors are protected so that no one can receive glucose values from the sensor through Bluetooth. The "password" is determined by scanning the sensor. Librelink does this only immediately after activating the sensor.
When Juggluco scan the sensor, you will have to determine a new "password" during the first scan. From then on, the "password" of LibreLink no longer works.

LibreLink can still receive Glucuse values scanning the sensor.

Some will have a different impression with the European free sensors 2. Librelink can sometimes receive glucose values at the same time as Juggluco, but this only works when Juggluco is first connected to the sensor. If FreeLink connects first or if Juggluco uninstall, it does not work.

But why should someone want to continue using freeLink?

Yesterday I started a new sensor with the free app, without using Diabox.

Right now I have two active sensors, on the left arm one with 14 days that yesterday gave me error with free (the famous error message and saying that I replace the sensor) and that it is measuring perfect with Diabox.And another in the right arm that I started yesterday at noon with free.

Well, it was said in this thread that starting the sensor without putting Diabox in the equation, it would measure perfect because it self -libra and Diabox interferes in the readings, etc ...

At this time I am making a measurement with the glucometer:

Blood value is 101

Left arm value with calibrated diabox is 99

Right arm value without using any other app is 53 !!!

I conclude that the crap of free measurements has nothing to do with using or not another app, is that the ABBott algorithm is an absolute garbage.

Let us add to these differences that I have without strips of Glucose of Abbott for more than a month because we are no longer needed and with 50 strips that give us for 4 months I do not even have to start.

Abbott's glucometer, by the way, also measures quite a fewer compared to glucometers of at least 5 different pharmacies.It measures me about 30 approximately.

Total that Abbott's is a mess.What obsession with which to believe that we are in eternal hypoglycemia.

PD: 5 years ago, when I debuted, there was no problem with the sensors, in fact, the measurements remember that they were quite approximate to reality.

It is clear that your sensor has not been self-heated well.

There may be some other factor that influences us.But it is very, very rare that some always be bad and others always well.

The factor that influenced me was that, I am sure 100%.

P.D: Equal to carry 2 sensors at the same time created too many interference in the Bluetooth and did not receive the necessary data to support.

@Sherpa41 said:

It is clear that your sensor has not been self-heated well.

There may be some other factor that influences us.But it is very, very rare that some always be bad and others always well.

The factor that influenced me was that, I am sure 100%.

P.D: Equal to carry 2 sensors at the same time created too many interference in the Bluetooth and did not receive the necessary data to support.

Tomorrow I will tell you if there is any change.

PS: I keep the other sensor because since it is calibrated and as with Diabox it measures me well because it seems to me a waste to remove it early.

Well, I tell you.After a full day with the sensor using only the Abott app (although I have started it for two days) I have to tell you that it is still evil as always.What a surprise!

In fact, last night before going to bed, the difference between capillary and the sensor was only 70 glucose.Right now the difference is over 40-50

This is a mess.

And those of Abbott are shame of saying that they are normal differences, as if it were the same to be with 100 or with 150 than 210.

Moral: I will continue to use Diabox because, within the bad, at least it allows me to calibrate and know how my blood glucose really is, and because I do not see that Diabox influences the Abbott's readings in any way.

Sandman said:
@Sandman said:

Sherpa41 said:
@Sherpa41said:

It is clear that your sensor has not been self-heated well.

There may be some other factor that influences us.But it is very, very rare that some always be bad and others always well.

The factor that influenced me was that, I am sure 100%.

P.D: Equal to carry 2 sensors at the same time created too many interference in the Bluetooth and did not receive the necessary data to support.

The old sensor runs out within a while.I will keep the new one with free until tonight or tomorrow to see if it is true that it regulates alone.

Tomorrow I will tell you if there is any change.

PS: I keep the other sensor because since it is calibrated and as with Diabox it measures me well because it seems to me a waste to remove it early.

There must be some other factor that prevents that self-hell.The mobile model you use, its configuration, other apps in the background that interfere, or some other mysterious factor that escapes us?

I still hallucinate how well all mine go.In hypos, with hyper, in quick down and rises ...

I have been around 6 months that the value is practically exact to the glucometer.2 points up, 2 points below.And when very promptly it is 10 points, in a couple of minutes it fits (by the delay that the sensor has).

Years ago I tended to mark less than the glucometer (even after the self-hell), I remember that I had times in ranges of 85%, suddenly without changing anything in my life, I went to 75% because it went from marking almost always something less, to mark exactly.

A shame not knowing all the factors that influence or not go well.So that everyone could enjoy it.

Well, I believe that applications do not interfere.They are the sensors whose data are erroneously interpreted by the algorithm of each.

The sensor I have now measures the same capillary, reader, Diabox and LibreLink.The first since there is free 2. Years.

It is the D79 code and nun 3MH01GJEMK0 series.

@Ruthbia this one that is doing so well, will be calibrated from factory.

Because one thing I do not understand is that 2 years ago I bought 10 free sensors3 and the 10 marked well from minute 1, to the last.They didn't need that day to adjust.

On the other hand, most free2 that I have used later (about 50) needed at least a few hours of being self-adjusting.In my case, maximum 24 hours, without other apps to interfere (if I have diabox or jugglyco

I do not understand that they could not make them calibrated of factory, like those free3, in 2 years that have passed.Although lately there are some free2 plus that already mark well from scratch.They are not all yet.

@Sherpa41 That is the eternal problem, which Abbott precisely sells its product with the motto that does not need calibration.

It is assumed that the initial 60 min are calibration and in the 15 days they no longer need calibration.

The sensors cannot come from factory because each person has a density and composition of their unique interstitial fluid, it is impossible to predefine it and Abbott refuses that calibration offered by other applications because it would be to publish that it is not reliable.

My theory is that it comes with a standard and there are people who approach that standard and others that we deviate.That is why some measures us badly and others are doing well.