Diabox or Juggluco could spoil freestyle readings

@Ruthbia

And this one that I have now, the first 26 hours marked me 70 more points.It was to discourage Juggluco and in 2 minutes up those 70 points.And every other days it has marked absolutely perfect.

And the 6 or 7 times I used Diabox exactly the same thing happened to me.They didn't adjust me until I uninstalled.I had one with Diabox 12 days and the 12, LibreLink scored 50, I took it out and I was adjusted the next day.

It is true that there must be some other factor that prevents it from calibrating well, because there is a user who says he does not use those programs and still does not calibrate him well.

But if it were for what you say about the user's interstitial fluid, that first day it would not fail in the same way in all users.I think we would have a lower deviation or none.

And by the way, to me the Endocrine of the SS told me that they could offer me the Dexcom G6 (it can be calibrate from factory) or the One. If I did not self -harm my free2 I would change me immediately.Although I just wanted the Dexcom G7 to not need to carry the mobile in summer.That's why I tried the minjus that allows you to do it with free2, but in reality I was like the ass.

@Sherpa41

I doubt that the calibration factor is the applications, as I have already mentioned before during the first 2 years of use of the sensor I have used the freestyle reader himself, and the deviation is practically the same as now with the application of LibreLink and I have not had no other application on the phone.

@Baraddur

Freelink reader is absolutely outdated today.They have not sold it or show it on the Abbot website.It does not even have continuous reading, such as mobile, it is clear that they are only based on the mobile app.

And in my case it is absolutely evident that Diabox and Juggluco were the culprits.It is impossible to doubt it with my experience and some other user has also said that it happens to him, when he has those applications installed.

But I already said that for you and other users, there must be more factors that we do not know

Have you tried to ask for a model of another brand?In the last visit to the endo they were offered.

Diabox was doing well until a month and a half ago or so.They gave me a lot of sensors whose number was starting for 301 q I found out for the Q Telegram Diabox group that were not compatible with Diabox.So I left it, uninstalled it and I put another new sensor because I distrusted everything, I did not go the continuous measurement or the alarms worked, all thanks to the "good equipment" of ABBott's customer service.They came to tell me that my mobile was not compatible with the app ... Anyway, I changed my sensor and everything is fine.

As what I wanted was to see blood glucose on the clock, I installed LibreLinkup and with a series of indications of a friend, I got it.I have the continuous measurement on the mobile and on the clock.

It is true that I lose the possibility of calibration that it had before but it is also true that at least the last two sensors are going quite well and very similar to the capillary less the first day.

So I'm happy and I don't think Diabox PQ will surely be complicated since they will try to "hack"

I think I stay like this and I don't complicate me anymore.And it also has the advantage of which I don't know I ever be caught (before many times), and I last the mobile battery much more, as before, almost 3 days.

@Sherpa41

I have spoken it several times with my endocrine, as I charge the capillaries that I make on the freeview page connecting the glucometer to the PC, she sees the differences she gives me, but she has only offered me to change to free 3, there is no other brand.

Sherpa41 said:
@Sherpa41 said:

I have copied the first message of this thread in chatgpt and the answer:

From what you describe, we do not seem that we are talking about a "mere coincidence", but of a fairly consistent pattern.
The most likely explanation has to do with how they work internallyLibreLinksuch as unofficial apps (Diabox, Juggluco) when they connect to a free freestyle sensor.

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🔍 Possible mechanism behind the problem

1. 
   

   Bluetooth sensor and connection

   
   
   
   
   • The 2/3 free freestyle sensor emits data via Bluetooth low energy (ble) to authorized devices.
   
   
   • LibreLinkIt is the official app that is responsible for reading, interpreting and calibrating this data on the phone.
   
   
   • Unofficial apps such as Diabox or Juggluco "hook" to the same BLE communication to read the data directly.
   
   
   
   


2. 
   

   Simultaneous access conflict

   
   
   
   
   • The Ble protocol of these sensorsIt is not thoughtFor more than one app to communicate with the same sensor.
   
   
   • When two apps try to "listen" and "keep the connection with the sensor alive":
     
     
     
     • There may be data package losses.
     
     
     • LibreLink can stop receiving readings in real time (or receiving them intermittently).
     
     
     • FreeLink's internal automatic calibration system may not work properly due to lack of complete data.
     
     
     
     
   
   
   
   


3. 
   

   Persistence even after closing the unofficial app

   
   
   
   
   • Forcing detention or removing permits is not always enough, because:
     
     
     
     • Some Android background services are automatically reactivated.
     
     
     • The telephone's ble system can continue to "retain" the previous connection.
     
     
     
     
   
   
   • This can make LibreLink still without receiving clean data until:
     
     
     
     • The sensor is restarted (changing to a new one).
     
     
     • Or the app that was interfering is completely eliminated.
     
     
     
     
   
   
   
   


4. 
   

   Reading mismatches (the 70 points of difference)

   
   
   
   
   • If the freeLink algorithm does not have stable readings since the beginning of the sensor, you can fail the initial calibration that adjusts interstitial readings with the expected pattern.
   
   
   • This would explain why, after uninstalling Juggluco, in minutes freelink "jumped" and aligned with the capillary glucometer.
   
   
   
   

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📌 Summary of what your experience indicates

• It does not seem coincidence: there is a repeated pattern with two different apps.


• Interference is probably producedat the Bluetooth connection level and sensor data access, affecting the internal functioning of LibreLink.


• Even closed, these apps can continue to interfere while installed.


• The problem is quickly solved by uninstalling the unofficial app and letting LibreLink recover exclusive control.

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Thistype of interference is especially probable in Androidand less in iOS.

Hello.

Following those who comment on the chatgpt response, I do not know whether to pay attention to all this, I see that in each answer your answer is different.

I understand that there are logical things in link systems, technologies that do not want to entertain, etc., but, it is logical, we have to look for our solutions, since Abbott will not put them for logical markets, and thus maintain the monopoly.

Now asking the same question you asked the chat:

I have copied the first message of this thread in chatgpt and the answer is now the following:

Chatgpt plus

@Jordiv said:

Sherpa41said:
@Sherpa41said:

I have copied the first message of this thread in chatgpt and the answer:

From what you describe, we do not seem that we are talking about a "mere coincidence", but of a fairly consistent pattern.
The most likely explanation has to do with how they work internallyLibreLinksuch as unofficial apps (Diabox, Juggluco) when they connect to a free freestyle sensor.

---

🔍 Possible mechanism behind the problem

1. 
   

   Bluetooth sensor and connection

   
   
   
   
   • The 2/3 free freestyle sensor emits data via Bluetooth low energy (ble) to authorized devices.
   
   
   • LibreLinkIt is the official app that is responsible for reading, interpreting and calibrating this data on the phone.
   
   
   • Unofficial apps such as Diabox or Juggluco "hook" to the same BLE communication to read the data directly.
   
   
   
   


2. 
   

   Simultaneous access conflict

   
   
   
   
   • The Ble protocol of these sensorsIt is not thoughtFor more than one app to communicate with the same sensor.
   
   
   • When two apps try to "listen" and "keep the connection with the sensor alive":
     
     
     
     • There may be data package losses.
     
     
     • LibreLink can stop receiving readings in real time (or receiving them intermittently).
     
     
     • FreeLink's internal automatic calibration system may not work properly due to lack of complete data.
     
     
     
     
   
   
   
   


3. 
   

   Persistence even after closing the unofficial app

   
   
   
   
   • Forcing detention or removing permits is not always enough, because:
     
     
     
     • Some Android background services are automatically reactivated.
     
     
     • The telephone's ble system can continue to "retain" the previous connection.
     
     
     
     
   
   
   • This can make LibreLink still without receiving clean data until:
     
     
     
     • The sensor is restarted (changing to a new one).
     
     
     • Or the app that was interfering is completely eliminated.
     
     
     
     
   
   
   
   


4. 
   

   Reading mismatches (the 70 points of difference)

   
   
   
   
   • If the freeLink algorithm does not have stable readings since the beginning of the sensor, you can fail the initial calibration that adjusts interstitial readings with the expected pattern.
   
   
   • This would explain why, after uninstalling Juggluco, in minutes freelink "jumped" and aligned with the capillary glucometer.
   
   
   
   

---

📌 Summary of what your experience indicates

• It does not seem coincidence: there is a repeated pattern with two different apps.


• Interference is probably producedat the Bluetooth connection level and sensor data access, affecting the internal functioning of LibreLink.


• Even closed, these apps can continue to interfere while installed.


• The problem is quickly solved by uninstalling the unofficial app and letting LibreLink recover exclusive control.

---

Thistype of interference is especially probable in Androidand less in iOS.

Hello.

Following those who comment on the chatgpt response, I do not know whether to pay attention to all this, I see that in each answer your answer is different.

I understand that there are logical things in link systems, technologies that do not want to entertain, etc., but, it is logical, we have to look for our solutions, since Abbott will not put them for logical markets, and thus maintain the monopoly.

Now asking the same question you asked the chat:

I have copied the first message of this thread in chatgpt and the answer is now the following:

Chatgpt plus

What you tell does not seem a coincidence at all.Your experience fits what many users suspect: third -party applications such asDiaboxeitherJugglucocan interfere with the operation ofLibreLinkand of the sensor itselfFree Freestyle.

I explain why it could happen:

1. 
   

   Bluetooth connections in parallel

   
   
   
   
   • 
     

     The sensor uses Bluetooth low energy (ble).

     
     
   
   
   • 
     

     If several apps try to read from the same sensor at the same time, conflicts can be produced: the connection is cut, the data is delayed or directly does not arrive.

     
     
   
   
   • 
     

     Even if you close the app or take away permits, on Android many times there are still processes or services in the background that try to connect.

     
     
   
   
   
   


2. 
   

   System resource lock

   
   
   
   
   • 
     

     Apps such as Diabox and Juggloch require accessibility permits, battery without restrictions, automatic start, etc.To ensure that the sensor does not "fall asleep."

     
     
   
   
   • 
     

     This sometimes interferes with the official app, which hopes to be the only one that controls the readings.

     
     
   
   
   
   


3. 
   

   Data interpretation

   
   
   
   
   • 
     

     LibreLink makes an internal "adjustment" between the sensor readings and own algorithms.

     
     
   
   
   • 
     

     When another app is engaged in the same sensor, it can cause LibreLink not to receive continuous data or that the ongoing calibration is corrupted.

     
     
   
   
   • 
     

     That would explain that after uninstalling juggluco, suddenly freelink "is corrected."

     
     
   
   
   
   


4. 
   

   Effect by changing sensor

   
   
   
   
   • 
     

     The 70 mg/dl lag just after installing Juggluco may be due to the fact that the sensor was not correctly receiving the background readings and the freeLink algorithm was "lost."

     
     
   
   
   • 
     

     When uninstalling it, the consistency and automatic adjustment are activated.

     
     
   
   
   
   

👉 In summary:

It is not that Diabox or Juggluco "spoils" the sensor, but thatThey interfere with Bluetooth communication and the LibreLink algorithm, which generates delays, inconsistent readings or mismatches.

In fact, Abbott never supports if it detects third -party apps, because they know they can cause anomalous behaviors.

So far the response of the chat.

In short, partners, to continue looking for the most appropriate solutions for our benefit.

I am very interested in being able to have applications (in my case for Android) to be able to have the glyco data as close, and easy in my hand, I do a lot of sport, and it is difficult to be taking out the mobile at all times to read the Gluco.

You have to install the modified clock app and Watchdrip that sends you the continuous readings of the free to the clock.

You can with more watches.

@Sherpa41 said:

@Ruthbia

And why the first day usually measure just as evil and diverted to all?Normally about 50 less than the glucometer.

And this one that I have now, the first 26 hours marked me 70 more points.It was to discourage Juggluco and in 2 minutes up those 70 points.And every other days it has marked absolutely perfect.

And the 6 or 7 times I used Diabox exactly the same thing happened to me.They didn't adjust me until I uninstalled.I had one with Diabox 12 days and the 12, LibreLink scored 50, I took it out and I was adjusted the next day.

It is true that there must be some other factor that prevents it from calibrating well, because there is a user who says he does not use those programs and still does not calibrate him well.

But if it were for what you say about the user's interstitial fluid, that first day it would not fail in the same way in all users.I think we would have a lower deviation or none.

And by the way, to me the Endocrine of the SS told me that they could offer me the Dexcom G6 (it can be calibrate from factory) or the One. If I did not self -harm my free2 I would change me immediately.Although I just wanted the Dexcom G7 to not need to carry the mobile in summer.That's why I tried the minjus that allows you to do it with free2, but in reality I was like the ass.

The new ones measure below 30mg/dl.

I measure with the reader via NFC, without application, and measures better than LibreLink, which I only measure by NFC, not by Bluethoth, so your theory is not worth in my case.There are no interference between applications.

After 9 years, I tell you that it is a subject of algorithms and signs of interstitial fluid.

The algorithm is the same for all users, the Bluethooth too, only changes the liquid of each and the area where we place the sensor.Assuming that all Abbott subcontractors manufacture the same, which does not usually go through my professional experience, in fact each country has an algorithm, the only thing that differentiates us is our interstitial liquid.

I would not rule out that it could be the interstitial liquid.

But then, that first day where everyone is a similar deviation.Before about 50 and now somewhat less as you say and then the majority is adjusted.And a minority is not adjusted ...

What does not fit me is that this first day is the same in both groups, if the cause were the interstitial liquid I think they would have a different deviation.

And then your way of connecting it is absolutely unique.It does not work as an example.No one else has an old reader without Bluetooth, the "new" with Bluetooth is a torture to use it next to the mobile.And also use LibreLink with manual scan, go to know, the same if it influences the calibration algorithm.It is not the same that has all the data, every minute in real time, in direct connection, to be sent every certain time, only when you make a manual scan, possibly send them compressed and summarized.

Good to all.

From the beginning until several days ago the readings through Diabox, more less were received via Bluetooth to the mobile, and also to the headset that I carry when I go by bike, or to walk.So I do not need to get the mobile and be every 5 min.scanning the sensor.

Today I do not know why, continuously, after receiving the gluco levels from Diabox, it is disconnected, and it no longer sends the data, until I return to escape directly from the sensor.
Can not any configuration data good?
I send you photos in case you can help me.

Maybe I have to uninstall the diabox, and create it again?

In this case, AI tells me the following, is it so?

To install Diabox on your Android mobile,Search and download the APK file from the official Telegram channel in Diabox, since it is not located in the Play Store.Once the file is downloaded, click on it to start the installation.Then, configure application permits, such as storage and location, and disable battery optimization to ensure proper operation.

Something should happen because from eight or so it has stopped providing continuous readings and does not respond.

I will try to install the app again to see if it is put in order.

Sandman said:
@Sandman said:

Something should happen because from eight or so it has stopped providing continuous readings and does not respond.

I will try to install the app again to see if it is put in order.

The data is not lost because I have several backups in my account.If I will have lost the last 6 or 7 days.

The fact is that right now I have continuous readings but it doesn't let me log in with my account.It always gives me error.

I hope you are maintenance or something and sooner or later let me enter to download my data.

alber1 said:
@Alber1 said:

Sandman said:
Sandmansaid:
@Sandmansaid:

Something should happen because from eight or so it has stopped providing continuous readings and does not respond.

I will try to install the app again to see if it is put in order.

When the Diaboxkotlin message begins to come out, it does not respond, continuously, uninstall it and again install it and go well again, that if you lose all the data, but I have them in the free that both go to me at the same time at the same time

Hello.

I am still giving me mistakes.

If you get it well, you already comment on the forum.

Thank you

I still can log in my Diaboxkotlin account.

Is anyone else happening to my mobile?

I have uninstalled the app and again installed but there is no way.

Good morning,

I am from the group to which the sensor is doing very well (not perfect, but very reliable compared to the capillary) almost from day one.But to try to look for explanations, I ask a couple of questions to which you always have values ​​deviation problems:

1) What variability index do you have?

2) When you say that the value in LibreLink differs x mg/dl with respect to the capillary, you refer to the value supposedly to “real time” (the number that comes out) or to the value that is then consolidated in the graph (and that it is not always the same, especially in peaks and valleys).

Let's see if we all get the problem.All the best!

Sherpa41 said:
@Sherpa41 said:

@Ruthbia

And why the first day usually measure just as evil and diverted to all?Normally about 50 less than the glucometer.

And this one that I have now, the first 26 hours marked me 70 more points.It was to discourage Juggluco and in 2 minutes up those 70 points.And every other days it has marked absolutely perfect.

And the 6 or 7 times I used Diabox exactly the same thing happened to me.They didn't adjust me until I uninstalled.I had one with Diabox 12 days and the 12, LibreLink scored 50, I took it out and I was adjusted the next day.

It is true that there must be some other factor that prevents it from calibrating well, because there is a user who says he does not use those programs and still does not calibrate him well.

But if it were for what you say about the user's interstitial fluid, that first day it would not fail in the same way in all users.I think we would have a lower deviation or none.

And by the way, to me the Endocrine of the SS told me that they could offer me the Dexcom G6 (it can be calibrate from factory) or the One. If I did not self -harm my free2 I would change me immediately.Although I just wanted the Dexcom G7 to not need to carry the mobile in summer.That's why I tried the minjus that allows you to do it with free2, but in reality I was like the ass.

In Diabox you cannot log and therefore you cannot export the file months.At least for the 2023 version, they warned that they would not solve it and removed Diaxtkolin.

@PVA91 The differences with the capillary are of the immediate measure, in my case the average per sensor is about 30mg/dl.Diabox not consolidated, interprets the value based on the deviation slope if you have calibrated, it gives it immediate.In fact, if you do not calibrate you the same value as FreeLink, I deduce that you use the same calculation algorithm on which you calculate the final value according to the chosen calibration method.

The Savitzky-Golay method or noise elimination can be used, which is a kind of fat number when in the measurement intervals (every minute) very followed disparate values ​​come out.

My GVI = 1.1 to 3 months.That is quite good (Diabox follows the American qualification model)

For me the most important is the PGS that values ​​the mean of glycemia, deviation, hypoglycemia in the chosen period.