Diabox or Juggluco could spoil freestyle readings

I have suspected for years that apps such as Diabox and Juggluco spoil the Freestyle FreeLink function.

When I used Diabox, LibreLink did not adjust number, once he spent 12 days going badly, in the end I got fed up, uninstalized Diabox and on the 13th, he was fixed freeLink magically.Then the 50 sensors I used without having anything installed, they were perfect.A lot of chance.

And the same thing happened to me yesterday.I tried to install it, but it didn't work well, so I removed all the permits and even forced the application arrest.But still freestyle freeLink practically no longer received values byBluetooth.

Luckily, in a couple of hours I had to replace the sensor.By putting the new one, theBluetoothIt operated again but the differences with the capillary were 70 points.I had never happened to me.(And the 2 plus from the first moment they usually do well)

And today when I had more than 26 hours marking, I decide to uninstall completely Jugluco.A couple of minutes later, the sensor rises those 70 points and fits perfectly with gluconometers.

Another huge coincidence?

I am very interested in this issue, does anyone else happen what I say @Sherpa41?

It is that a while ago I am regulating the new Diabox app and I have seriously thought about uninstalling it.

In addition to the huge difference between the freeLink app and if it is true that Diabox is uninstalled.

Sherpa41 said:
@Sherpa41 said:

I have suspected for years that apps such as Diabox and Juggluco spoil the Freestyle FreeLink function.

When I used Diabox, LibreLink did not adjust number, once he spent 12 days going badly, in the end I got fed up, uninstalized Diabox and on the 13th, he was fixed freeLink magically.Then the 50 sensors I used without having anything installed, they were perfect.A lot of chance.

And the same thing happened to me yesterday.I tried to install it, but it didn't work well, so I removed all the permits and even forced the application arrest.But still freestyle freeLink practically no longer received values byBluetooth.

Luckily, in a couple of hours I had to replace the sensor.By putting the new one, theBluetoothIt operated again but the differences with the capillary were 70 points.I had never happened to me.(And the 2 plus from the first moment they usually do well)

And today when I had more than 26 hours marking, I decide to uninstall completely Jugluco.A couple of minutes later, the sensor rises those 70 points and fits perfectly with gluconometers.

Another huge coincidence?

I use LibreLink in manual and Free reader in Manual and Diabox live, and I don't notice.It measures Diabox well and the reader, the FreeLink app is the one that deviates the most.

The reader is precise and very reliable.

I compare it with blood analytics, which unfortunately make me many.

It has no relationship, the Bluetooth always transmits the same, it is the FreeLink software that fails.It has nothing to do.I read via NFC reader and freelink and their measures are similar.

Sandman said:
@Sandman said:

I am very interested in this issue, does anyone else happen what he says@Sherpa41?

It is that a while ago I am regulating the new Diabox app and I have seriously thought about uninstalling it.

In addition to the huge difference between the freeLink app and if it is true that Diabox is uninstalled.

I believe that the program left by memory resident (Diabox and Juggluco) makes the LibreLink resident much worse.Of many more mistakes and cannot be adjusted well.But go to know.

It happened to me the 4 times that I tried Diabox and the only one I tried juggly.On a base of 50 sensors, the others all perfect, I think it is already enough indication.

Ruthbia is a very special case because he uses an old freestyle reader.The current one tried it and created some interference with the mobile so large, that they cannot virtually have in the same room with the mobile because it prevents continuous reading by his Bluetooth.

What worries me is that many diabetics are tied to these programs, because they do not realize that although the solution seems, it could actually be the cause of the problems.

Ruthbia said:
@Ruthbia said:

I use LibreLink in manual and Free reader in Manual and Diabox live, and I don't notice.It measures Diabox well and the reader, the FreeLink app is the one that deviates the most.

The reader is precise and very reliable.

I compare it with blood analytics, which unfortunately make me many.

It has no relationship, the Bluetooth always transmits the same, it is the FreeLink software that fails.It has nothing to do.I read via NFC reader and freelink and their measures are similar.

But that deviation of 50, can spend the first hours, maximum the first day, then LibreLink is always corrected only.Like the reader only without the mobile, it does not have that ability to corrected either.

What makes no sense is that some are all bad and you need calibrated programs and others are all good (except sometimes the first day).Something must be different in each other.

Because I already tell you for a year, it is even when it is going up or down, the sensor nails it.And when it seems that I promptly fail, I take another glucometer and the one that failed it turns out that it was the previous glucometer, not the freestyle.

Something there must be and I indicate that FreeLink on a mobile without other programs bothering and unique access, it seems that it is able to adjust alone.

If you want to receive glucose values via Bluetooth in Librelink, you shouldn’t use the sensor with Juggluco.
It is not that the sensor goes bad, but it is absolutely impossible to receive any glucose value from the sensor after you have scanned the sensor Juggluco. The sensors are protected so that not anyone can receive glucose values from the sensor via Bluetooth. The “password” is determined by scanning the sensor. Librelink does this only immediately after it activates the sensor.
When Juggluco scans the sensor, it will have to determine a new “password” during the first scan. Thereafter, the “password” of Librelink doesn’t work anymore.

Librelink can still receive glucuse values by scanning the sensor.

Some will have a different impression with European Libre 2 sensors. Librelink can sometimes receive glucose values at the same time as Juggluco, but this only works when Juggluco first connects with the sensor. If Librelink connects first or if you uninstall Juggluco it doesn’t work.

But why should anyone want to continue using Librelink?

I think just as @sherpa41 I had Diabox and until I uninstall it was always bad freelink and the same with Glucosediret, there was gap and also uninstalled it and I have been with LibreLink for a long time and without external apps it always is doing well, instead of blaming all the blame for free, they should tell Diabox that they manufacture a sensor for their app.A piece of Fiat, because if you go bad later you endure and do not gimote !!

@Andrespmat said:

I think just like@Sherpa41I had Diabox and until I uninstal it was always bad freelink and the same with Glucosediret, there hadYou are going badly and do not gimote !!

For these reasons "pirates" arise

What we are seeing is that these pirate programs are the cause of the problems.

If you leave the freeLink app work well, alone, the sensors are perfect.In 50 sensors (from the second day) I have had a variation greater than 10%.Unless I had Diabox or Juggluco installed in the mobile.Although they are deactivated and without any permission, they continue to spoil the freestyle measurement.

The bad thing about Diabox is that when uninstalling it, FreeLink took many hours to adjust, so it is more difficult to see the relationship.But with Juggluco being so instant, I saw immediately the cause.That is why this thread believes.

Juggluco had it installed but had removed the connection to the sensor, all the permits and had even forced his arrest.But I didn't want to uninstall it because it is not usually available in the PlayStore.

But LibreLink continued to mark badly, in the end after more than 24 hours marking 70 units less, I decided to uninstall it completely and in just 2 or 3 minutes those 70 units of deviation that there was with the glucometers was adjusted.It was really spectacular!And since then it is perfect.

I have copied the first message of this thread in chatgpt and the answer:

From what you describe, we do not seem that we are talking about a "mere coincidence", but of a fairly consistent pattern.
The most likely explanation has to do with how they work internallyLibreLinksuch as unofficial apps (Diabox, Juggluco) when they connect to a free freestyle sensor.

🔍 Possible mechanism behind the problem

1. Bluetooth sensor and connection

   • The 2/3 free freestyle sensor emits data via Bluetooth low energy (ble) to authorized devices.
   • LibreLinkIt is the official app that is responsible for reading, interpreting and calibrating this data on the phone.
   • Unofficial apps such as Diabox or Juggluco "hook" to the same BLE communication to read the data directly.

2. Simultaneous access conflict

   • The Ble protocol of these sensorsIt is not thoughtFor more than one app to communicate with the same sensor.
   • When two apps try to "listen" and "keep the connection with the sensor alive":
     • There may be data package losses.
     • LibreLink can stop receiving readings in real time (or receiving them intermittently).
     • FreeLink's internal automatic calibration system may not work properly due to lack of complete data.

3. Persistence even after closing the unofficial app

   • Forcing detention or removing permits is not always enough, because:
     • Some Android background services are automatically reactivated.
     • The telephone's ble system can continue to "retain" the previous connection.
   • This can make LibreLink still without receiving clean data until:
     • The sensor is restarted (changing to a new one).
     • Or the app that was interfering is completely eliminated.

4. Reading mismatches (the 70 points of difference)

   • If the freeLink algorithm does not have stable readings since the beginning of the sensor, you can fail the initial calibration that adjusts interstitial readings with the expected pattern.
   • This would explain why, after uninstalling Juggluco, in minutes freelink "jumped" and aligned with the capillary glucometer.

📌 Summary of what your experience indicates

• It does not seem coincidence: there is a repeated pattern with two different apps.
• Interference is probably producedat the Bluetooth connection level and sensor data access, affecting the internal functioning of LibreLink.
• Even closed, these apps can continue to interfere while installed.
• The problem is quickly solved by uninstalling the unofficial app and letting LibreLink recover exclusive control.

Thistype of interference is especially probable in Androidand less in iOS.

Hello

What do you say also with the Gwatch Wear and Glucodatahandler app?

Rafaga said:
@Rafaga said:

Hello

What do you say also with the Gwatch Wear and Glucodatahandler app?

Good @sherpa41.

I do not know if the problem will be the applications, but I have never used them, pass from the reader to the mobile a few months ago and for not having I do not even have the Diabox Telegram channel and the measurements are equally bad with respect to the glucometer, around the 50 of difference always lower the app.

As I said in another post, they have a margin of improvement.

@BaraddurIt is rare, those 50 of difference can give the 1st day, but then if there are no "obstacles" it fits alone.

Do you have the mobile always near and in connection with the sensor or do you leave it for a long time far or off?

That could also prevent the app fit.I have seen some case that was arranged always having it close.

And it also watches the glucometer, I have 4 and they fail a lot and also each model usually has its deviation.

@Sherpa41 that are not reliable even if you think they are doing well.According to Abbott, they do not need calibration, and from the 60 min of the beginning they are reliable.You can read it in your advertising.Its variations are high.

Yesterday I was in the endocrine to guide insulins for chemotherapy treatment, and reviewed my LibreLink and then Diabox.

He told me that the new free series2 gives values well below real glycemia and many sensors are returned because they do not reach 15 days.And it will not be why in that hospital they do not see many patients.Come on, they have plenty of data to make this type of comment.

That the sensors help to know each other, of course, but that they are not also reliable and that they serve to have an idea of the range of blood glucose in which one is, but not to know the exact value of blood glucose.For the exact value, a blood analytics, the following the hair test.

@Ruthbia I have 4 glucometers and the variations between them are usually much greater than between the sensor and the glucometers.Especially in high values, the sensor is usually in the average of all of them.

You just have to repeat several times in a row, the test on the finger, in the same glucometer to see how the value is changing.The reliability of the glucometer is very, very low.

The Tiktok of an American diabetic has recently posted that with the same blood put it in 3 glucometers, supposedly the best brand (Countour Next) and each one marked what he wanted.One marked Hipo, another normal and the other tall.

I always have prepared the strips for 2 glyuometers of different brands because trusting the value of only one is quite risky.

On the other hand, the sensors, I notice that every day they go better.Before in the hypos they were too predictive and always notified you before (marking less), but now they are also stuck.

P.D: What you say that the sensors mark, every time I make an analytical, I sign up for the sensor's value when they do the analytical and lately the same marks or a little more than the results of the blood in vein.The last 2Sometimes I marked all the time 160 and something, the sensor, and in the results of the analytics 150. I was surprised because before they would always mark more, but now they have improved a lot.

I was Absolute Diabox until I had to replace it with the new app, which I like much less than the original.

On Monday or Tuesday I have the sensor change and I will do the test to activate it and use it only with the ABBOTT app, without putting diabox or any other app through.

Within a week I will tell you how those three or four days have gone.If Abbott continues to measure what he wants or if he really approaches the glycometer values.

Spoiler: I have no faith that Abbott measures moderately well.

Sherpa41 said:
@Sherpa41 said:

I have 4 glucometers and the variations between them are usually much greater than between the sensor and the glucometers.Especially in high values, the sensor is usually in the average of all of them.

You just have to repeat several times in a row, the test on the finger, in the same glucometer to see how the value is changing.The reliability of the glucometer is very, very low.

The Tiktok of an American diabetic has recently posted that with the same blood put it in 3 glucometers, supposedly the best brand (Countour Next) and each one marked what he wanted.One marked Hipo, another normal and the other tall.

I always have prepared the strips for 2 glyuometers of different brands because trusting the value of only one is quite risky.

On the other hand, the sensors, I notice that every day they go better.Before in the hypos they were too predictive and always notified you before (marking less), but now they are also stuck.

@Sandman you have to have faith, I with the free1 I put them in my arm and they bothered me so much when I sleep, that I hated them and casually everyone marked me fatal.

With the free2 and free3 I discovered a place that did not crush at night, they stopped bothering me, I had a better attitude and from there all the following 50 sensors have done well (except when I used rare programs).

Sherpa41 said:
@Sherpa41 said:

@SandmanYou have to have faith, I with the free1 I was put in my arm and they bothered me so much when I sleep, that I hated them and casually all marked me fatal.

With the free2 and free3 I discovered a place that did not crush at night, they stopped bothering me, I had a better attitude and from there all the following 50 sensors have done well (except when I used rare programs).